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Rank Identifications on Star Trek:Discovery Uniforms.

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I haven't visited the Trek BBS for quite some time, particularly the Discovery forum, so perhaps my question has been covered in another thread. I like the uniforms on Discovery, but I can't figure out how a person's rank is identified. I don't see stripes like on TOS or pips like on the other series. Can anyone enlighten me?
 
I haven't visited the Trek BBS for quite some time, particularly the Discovery forum, so perhaps my question has been covered in another thread. I like the uniforms on Discovery, but I can't figure out how a person's rank is identified. I don't see stripes like on TOS or pips like on the other series. Can anyone enlighten me?


It is located on the Delta itself.
 
And here's an actual captain's badge, so you can see how an actual costume looks close-up:

discovery_captain_pin.jpg


And yes, they are very hard to see on the television screen.

It's too bad, the KT-style rank stripes done in the corresponding metallic division colour would have looked great on those uniforms... :)
 
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It's probably very hard to see in person. The whole point was the original uniforms was so people could figure out who's is and who does what - even if they don't know the other person well - in a crunch.

Even in modern militaries the only time I can think of where rank isn't clear at several meters away is combat fatigues, but it should be obvious why that's the case.
 
Thanks. I see them now. I agree with Avro Arrow that the TOS style rank stripes would have looked great on the Discovery uniforms. Continuity wise they would have fit nicely in the timeline as well.
 
There are laurels on the flag badge. A varying number of those are bright gold, while the ones that are not are black. Supposedly, four gold is Admiral, three is Vice Admiral, two is Rear Admiral, and one is Commodore...

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And here's an actual captain's badge, so you can see how an actual costume looks close-up:

discovery_captain_pin.jpg

I look at that badge and see a lot of messing around for no good reason. Could have been the flat gold color with no pips and would have looked great (and made more sense).
 
The rank is on the front of the badge, and on the back is name and serial number. They're the spaceage equivalent of dog tags, too.

I thing the rank makes them look too cluttered, and agree it should be on the sleeves. I wonder if they did it intentionally to differentiate themselves visually from the Kelvin movies.
 
also as far as I can tell, there is no way to tell what a rank an admiral is.

Perhaps there are different quantities of 'leaves' surrounding the Starfleet logo which would correspond to a RL admiral's stars.

My question is, do the vertical lines on Starfleet uniforms (the ones that encircle the shoulders) have anything to do with rank? I can't remember, do all DSC characters have the same number of these lines?
 
Perhaps there are different quantities of 'leaves' surrounding the Starfleet logo which would correspond to a RL admiral's stars.

My question is, do the vertical lines on Starfleet uniforms (the ones that encircle the shoulders) have anything to do with rank? I can't remember, do all DSC characters have the same number of these lines?
I believe they all have the same number, but Captain and Admiral uniforms have them as gold, and Admiral uniforms have full gold instead of just the inside shoulder.
 
While I'm not keen on the TNG-ish pip system being used in this era, it does kind of follow up on the ENT era, and, like the stripe system, it's definitely more intuitive than the complicated system of symbols used in the TWOK era.

Kor
 
I believe they all have the same number, but Captain and Admiral uniforms have them as gold, and Admiral uniforms have full gold instead of just the inside shoulder.

I thought the vertical lines were color-coded to division, like everything else on the uniform? :confused:
 
I thought the vertical lines were color-coded to division, like everything else on the uniform? :confused:

Not the ones on the shoulders. Only captains and admirals have coloured piping on the shoulders.

Everyone else just has the torso piping.

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The Admiral piping is the same as the Captain's, except it extends past the full length piping to the outside shoulder.
 
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^ I wasn't referring to the added piping that Admirals and Captains have. I meant the vertical lines, the ones that go over the shoulder, down through the armpit, then back up. Every uniform has it, even Tilly's. And these ARE color-coded to divisions.

Also I see that not everyone has the same number of said stripes. Some have four, others five. It doesn't look like it has anything to do with rank, though.
 
While I'm not keen on the TNG-ish pip system being used in this era, it does kind of follow up on the ENT era, and, like the stripe system, it's definitely more intuitive than the complicated system of symbols used in the TWOK era.

Kor
The pips are essentially the same system as the stripes used in the US Navy today. If anything, it was TOS that doesn't match with anything else.

http://www.officersguide.org/resources/Officer+Rank+Structure+I.jpg

https://media.defense.gov/2010/Aug/04/2000337860/-1/-1/0/100803-F-3478B-200.JPG
 
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