Question about Pike's crew (SPOILER)

[Mr. Laser Beam]

ST XI has just landed actor Greg Ellis (Michael Amador from 24, and the Cardassian 'Ekoor' from DS9's final episode) to play the Enterprise's chief engineer, Olsen. This is presumably the engineer who preceded Scotty.

My question is this: Has this ever been dealt with in the novels? Have we ever read about who was the chief engineer before Scotty was? I'm guessing we're talking about the time when Christopher Pike was captain. Has any novel dealt with that? With Scotty's predecessor as chief engineer?

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

I believe DC Fontana's Vulcan's Glory named the Chief Engineer under Pike as Caitlin Barry. But there's nothing to say that she wasn't succeeded by Olsen before Kirk took command.

 

[Turtletrekker]

There was also Moves-With-Burning-Grace from the Early Voyages comic, Burning Dreams and an SCE book--I think it's When Time Stands Still, but I could be wrong.

 

[KRAD]

Both Vonda N. McIntyre's Enterprise: the First Adventure and Mike W. Barr's "All Those Years Ago..." in the Star Trek Annual #1 comic book postulated that Scotty served under Pike during the later years of his captaincy.

D.C. Fontana had an engineer named Caitlin Barry for Vulcan's Glory, whom Peter David also used in The Rift. In "Conflicting Natures" and Where Sea Meets Sky, Jerry Oltion had Michael Burnstein. And in both Dan Abnett & Ian Edginton's Early Voyages comic book and Margaret Wander Bonanno's Burning Dreams, the CE was Moves-with-Burning-Grace, a Masai.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Turtletrekker said:
There was also Moves-With-Burning-Grace from the Early Voyages comic, Burning Dreams and an SCE book--I think it's When Time Stands Still, but I could be wrong.

A wonderful character. I especially love the issue where he goes hand-to-hand, using a staff, with renegade Vulcans and their lyrpa.

 

[Kevin Dilmore]

Turtletrekker said:
There was also Moves-With-Burning-Grace from the Early Voyages comic, Burning Dreams and an SCE book--I think it's When Time Stands Still, but I could be wrong.

Yep. Dan and Ian graciously blessed our (actually Dayton's) idea to have Moves join the crew of the Lovell for that one. That was after his service under Pike, however.

Kevin

 

[captcalhoun]

so, Pike went through ChEngs like Picard in S1 TNG, then?

 

[Tino]

captcalhoun said:
so, Pike went through ChEngs like Picard in S1 TNG, then?

*lol* Wasn't it funny that they didn't cast a chief engineer at first and then realized throughout the first season, that it wouldn't be such an bad idea. Wham, there goes Geordi from navigation to engineering and noone saw that coming. ;-) Not to mention the waste of three CE. :-)

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

captcalhoun said:
so, Pike went through ChEngs like Picard in S1 TNG, then?

Well, Pike was in command of the Enterprise for 11 or 12 years, so it shouldn't be suprising that he had a few Chief Engineers during that time.

 

[KRAD]

Not to mention the waste of three CE. :-)

Four, actually -- MacDougal ("The Naked Now"), Argyle ("Where No One Has Gone Before," "Datalore"), Logan ("The Arsenal of Freedom"), and Lynch ("Skin of Evil").

 

[Stevil2001]

Except that Pike stories tend to cluster around "The Cage" (understandable, I guess, but when is someone going to write a story that takes place in 2260?), so all these chief engineers are right on top of each other:

-- Caitlin Barry is in Vulcan's Glory and The Rift, which occur sometime before and right after "The Cage", respectively
-- Michael Burnstein's two stories are in the year following "The Cage"
-- Moves-with-Burning-Grace appears in the EV comics, which occur just before and in the year following "The Cage" (but he's also the engineer at launch, as seen in the crew dossiers in issue #1)

All of this is a right mess if you try to reconcile it into one big continuity. Which goes for the senior staff of Pike's Enterprise in general, really.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Kevin Dilmore said:

Turtletrekker said:
There was also Moves-With-Burning-Grace from the Early Voyages comic, Burning Dreams and an SCE book--I think it's When Time Stands Still, but I could be wrong.

Yep. Dan and Ian graciously blessed our (actually Dayton's) idea to have Moves join the crew of the Lovell for that one. That was after his service under Pike, however.

Kevin

Good thing he's not the ship's cook. Then he might be Moves-With-Burning-Roast.

 

[Spike730]

But Lynch was only an assistant chief engineer.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

^Weren't they all assistant chief engineers?

 

[KRAD]

^ No he wasn't. He was the chief engineer.

You may be thinking of Singh in "Lonely Among Us," who was the assistant chief engineer (and died in that episode). Lynch was the guy who restarted the warp engines in "Skin of Evil" (and also insisted on identifying himself by his full name). But he was the chief engineer.

 

[ClayinCA]

KRAD said:
Lynch was the guy who restarted the warp engines in "Skin of Evil" (and also insisted on identifying himself by his full name).

Damn, that drove me crazy when he did that! Even more than his obnoxious behavior in the rest of the episode, I hated that. I mean, who the hell does that??

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...I'm okay now.

 

[Stevil2001]

Leland T. Lynch is my hero.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Steve Mollmann said:
Leland T. Lynch is my hero.

With a name like that, wouldn't you always announce yourself with it as much as you could? I would.

 

[Therin of Andor]

ClayinCA said:
I mean, who the hell does that??

Bond. James Bond.

Earl J. Waggerdorn (from TV's "Julia"); Corey Baker also always called his friend by that full title.

Charles Emerson Winchester III.

Thurston Howell III.

 

[KRAD]

^ They all do that when they first introduce themselves. Lynch kept doing it -- including during an emergency, when he contacts the bridge and says, "Leland T. Lynch here, sir."