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Q Continuum vs. Borg

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Q introduced the TNG crew to the Borg where they learn that the Borg is a different type of enemy. We learn through TNG and in the final episode of Vogyer that the Borg can be fought off and even destroyed. But what kind of battle would you have if the Continuum and Borg decided to lock-horns. The biggest problem for the Borg is that wouldn't be able to assimalate the Continuum. Infact the Continuum would have the advantage with their powers.

So, if they were to go to war how would Q attack the Borg and how would the Borg attack Q?
 
Well, I don't think there would be any contest. The Qs could just snap their fingers and turn the Borg into... well, anything they wanted. Or they could even erase them from existence.
 
Yeah, this illustrates one of my biggest frustrations with how the Q Continuum was imagined in the franchise. A completely omnipotent race just doesn't make much sense --- limitations are what civilize us, not complete and utter power. Otherwise you have the God(s) conundrum: if one is omnipotent, how can they stand by and watch pain and suffering and injustice, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, and so on.
 
This is essentially an extremely mismatched fight, unless the Borg were to have the aid of a Q. I'd be interested to see what exactly would happen then, since we know that Q can give mortals the power of the Q, so maybe this renegade Q would en-Q the Borg, and the Borg keep producing more drones, and so we'd have a numerically superior number of Q-beings on the Borg side unless the Continuum uses their Q powers to nip this in the bud and...

Yeah. It's sort of difficult to puzzle out what would happen even then, but in a conventional Q v. Borg scenario there is only one victor. This is precisely why the Borg are used as a threat by the Q in "Q Who?"; if you want to be saved from the implacable menace that is the Borg, well, only the Q can rescue you.

Yeah, this illustrates one of my biggest frustrations with how the Q Continuum was imagined in the franchise. A completely omnipotent race just doesn't make much sense --- limitations are what civilize us, not complete and utter power. Otherwise you have the God(s) conundrum: if one is omnipotent, how can they stand by and watch pain and suffering and injustice, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, and so on.


That's sort of the point of the Q. They're omnipotent, but they're not nice people, and they're definitely not people Star Trek views as more civilized or sophisticated than humankind, just a helluva lot more powerful (they're basically a whole race of Loki trickster gods).
 
Yeah, this illustrates one of my biggest frustrations with how the Q Continuum was imagined in the franchise. A completely omnipotent race just doesn't make much sense --- limitations are what civilize us, not complete and utter power. Otherwise you have the God(s) conundrum: if one is omnipotent, how can they stand by and watch pain and suffering and injustice, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, and so on.

I agree with your sentiments. I find it frustrating at times (though I like the Q Continuum stories) that they call the humans barbaric amongest other things yet they are the ones that allow suffering when they are fully able to stop it. The Borg:borg:, Romulans:rommie: and Cardasians:cardie: and most of the Klingons:klingon: are far worse when it comes to barbarism and dirty warfare they leave them in peace, perhaps these 'gods' can only pick on cultures that are not so much of a threat, a bit like the playground bully?
 
Since the Q apparently exist outside of physical space, the Borg would have no target, nothing to read on their sensors, etc. Nothing to be drawn to want to assimilate. So the Q would have to be the aggressor, in which case they could apparently undo everything the Borg ever did.
 
Although the Q would win because they are 'freakin Gods because the Borg got a movie I am going to say Q gets assimilated by the collective:lol:!
 
How would Q attack the Borg and how would the Borg attack Q?

You know, I have to think this would be pretty boring - :: snap :: followed by a flash of light (thrown in just for effect), followed by no more Borg.
 
Q hands down, as others have said.

However, I don't think Q (or the Q) would waste their time with the Borg. Q himself is interested in the Enterprise because of the social interaction and the fun of putting the ship in ridiculous situations.

I'm sure he would consider the Borg a bunch of bores who would be unable to appreciate the questions he poses, cannot be antagonized, and would not respond with the same kind of hilarity.

I suppose it's a lot like a conventional prankster trying to pull a prank on a computer, or a rock. There's just no fun in it.
 
Yeah, this illustrates one of my biggest frustrations with how the Q Continuum was imagined in the franchise. A completely omnipotent race just doesn't make much sense --- limitations are what civilize us, not complete and utter power. Otherwise you have the God(s) conundrum: if one is omnipotent, how can they stand by and watch pain and suffering and injustice, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, and so on.

I agree with your sentiments. I find it frustrating at times (though I like the Q Continuum stories) that they call the humans barbaric amongest other things yet they are the ones that allow suffering when they are fully able to stop it. The Borg:borg:, Romulans:rommie: and Cardasians:cardie: and most of the Klingons:klingon: are far worse when it comes to barbarism and dirty warfare they leave them in peace, perhaps these 'gods' can only pick on cultures that are not so much of a threat, a bit like the playground bully?
Just to note, that, for all his toying with Jean-Luc and co, Q did so for more than just the sheer fun of gettting a rise out of poor Jean-luc...as fun as those pop-ins always were. For us.He saw something in humanity-the Enterprise crew being the microcosm of us-that was of interest to him. We were barbarians...but with much potential. Q wasn't there just to enjoy himself. He was learning, even as Picard mirrored all of humanity-and did it darn well-for us in the presence of this awesome and potentially dangerous race. He saw that Picard could grasp 'the bigger picture'..or as close as any human could so far. He didn't exactly hand Jean-Luc the answer sheet-but he left just enough breadcrmbs, for him to find his way to the truth...oh, and yes.. the Q for the BIG win....in THIS reality....nudge nudge.
 
The big problem with Q is that humans are criticised each time for being barbaric (with the exception of the time when he was stripped of his powers). He was just as barbaric in his treatmeant, at times he hindered the Enterprise when they were on a mercy mission. As far as I know he never attacked ay other civilisation, he could have picked on the Klingons or even the Vulcans after all they were quite nasty before their peace loving logic days?
 
The big problem with Q is that humans are criticized each time for being barbaric (with the exception of the time when he was stripped of his powers). He was just as barbaric in his treatment, at times he hindered the Enterprise when they were on a mercy mission. As far as I know he never attacked ay other civilization, he could have picked on the Klingons or even the Vulcans after all they were quite nasty before their peace loving logic days?

Q goes around doing and saying whatever he wants for his own amusement. He's adopted humanity, and in a more literal sense, the Enterprise as his pet. He watches it as it reacts to new situations, giving pointers or punishments as he sees fit for his own desires. It seems he wants to help humanity evolve, but that doesn't mean it's his job to by human-kind's parent.

In other words, by your example, he's being hypocritical. Do you think he cares?
 
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