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Spoilers Prodigy: Supernova (game)

I wonder if somebody can eventually do an "out of bounds" of the game. The environs are beautiful - I might revisit Taresse during Christmas time, it's very 'moody' - but you can't take it all in due to the fix camera.

Another thing I've noticed, the characters frequently reference Alpha/Beta Quadrant species. Perhaps they were exposed to them by training on the Protostar. But I would've expected/liked a few throwaway lines about Kazon, Devore, etc.
This review plays into that: https://www.gamegrin.com/reviews/star-trek-prodigy-supernova-review/
"Dal makes frequent references which literally boil down to “[Thing] is like [Star Trek species] [noun]!”. A direct quote is “We’re up a Romulan river without a paddle”, another is “He’s trying to trap us like Caitians”. We’ve been told that Dal has little knowledge of the Alpha Quadrant… But he somehow knows how hot a Cardassian fire pit is? I’ve seen every Star Trek show and movie and I didn’t know that Cardassia even had fire pits. And on another note what makes a Betazoid fridge specifically cold in relation to an ice planet to make Dal reference it, rather than one of the ice worlds in the Alpha Quadrant? These kids are trying to be Starfleet cadets, the ice planet of Andoria is a founding member of the Federation, come on! The writing just feels all kinds of sloppy, which is a shame because the overall story is pretty good — it’s what I’d expect a Star Trek game to be about. But Dal saying he’ll do something “by Worf’s beard!” is simply stupid since the only Enterprise-D crewmember he’s even aware of is a hologram of Beverly Crusher."

I think the reviewer has a point that this particular part of the writing is not good. All those references seem formulaic and out of character for Dal (who indeed has never heard of Worf and has never been to Cardassia). A Prodigy staff writer contributed to the game, but I doubt she was involved with those random passages (possibly more of an editing role to make sure that the character beats were correct and the main story gets neither spoiled too much nor contradicted). If anything, Dal references should come from Tars Lamora or from places he visited with Nandi.
 
From the design of the plushie, somebody skilled in crafting could recreate it.
I have played the LDS game but not come across a reference to the slugs yet. Do they appear in a holodeck simulation, or in dialog scenes?
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This review plays into that: https://www.gamegrin.com/reviews/star-trek-prodigy-supernova-review/
"Dal makes frequent references which literally boil down to “[Thing] is like [Star Trek species] [noun]!”. A direct quote is “We’re up a Romulan river without a paddle”, another is “He’s trying to trap us like Caitians”. We’ve been told that Dal has little knowledge of the Alpha Quadrant… But he somehow knows how hot a Cardassian fire pit is? I’ve seen every Star Trek show and movie and I didn’t know that Cardassia even had fire pits. And on another note what makes a Betazoid fridge specifically cold in relation to an ice planet to make Dal reference it, rather than one of the ice worlds in the Alpha Quadrant? These kids are trying to be Starfleet cadets, the ice planet of Andoria is a founding member of the Federation, come on! The writing just feels all kinds of sloppy, which is a shame because the overall story is pretty good — it’s what I’d expect a Star Trek game to be about. But Dal saying he’ll do something “by Worf’s beard!” is simply stupid since the only Enterprise-D crewmember he’s even aware of is a hologram of Beverly Crusher."

I think the reviewer has a point that this particular part of the writing is not good. All those references seem formulaic and out of character for Dal (who indeed has never heard of Worf and has never been to Cardassia). A Prodigy staff writer contributed to the game, but I doubt she was involved with those random passages (possibly more of an editing role to make sure that the character beats were correct and the main story gets neither spoiled too much nor contradicted). If anything, Dal references should come from Tars Lamora or from places he visited with Nandi.

This feels a little unfair. Dal was raised by Nandi, who may have taught him these expressions. They’ve also been receiving lessons on the Federation and the Alpha Quadrant from Janeway, and have been using the holodeck to explore those worlds. Gwyn is also shown on episode one to be learning about thousands of alien cultures, including Alpha Quadrant, through their language.

It’s like claiming a kid from the Midwest can’t make references to England because he’s only heard about it from his parents or from watching movies. Given they were all isolated on Tars Lamora, these may be the only shared cultural touchstones they have together — what they learned on the Protostar.
 
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This feels a little unfair. Dal was raised by Nandi, who may have taught him these expressions. They’ve also been receiving lessons on the Federation and the Alpha Quadrant from Janeway, and have been using the holodeck to explore those worlds.

It’s like claiming a kid from the Midwest can’t make references to England because he’s only heard about it from his parents or from watching movies. Given they were all isolated on Tars Lamora, these may be the only shared cultural touchstones they have together — what they learned on the Protostar.
I agree with the reviewer - it's bad writing (for those particular references, not for the entire game, the story and general interactions between the characters are good for a game).

Take the "Romulan river" instance. Why would it be especially bad to be without a paddle on a Romulan river, as opposed to an river on Earth or Qo'nos or Alpha Centauri or wherever?

Dal doesn't speak remotely like that on the show, either.
 
I agree with the reviewer - it's bad writing (for those particular references, not for the entire game, the story and general interactions between the characters are good for a game).

Take the "Romulan river" instance. Why would it be especially bad to be without a paddle on a Romulan river, as opposed to an river on Earth or Qo'nos or Alpha Centauri or wherever?

Dal doesn't speak remotely like that on the show, either.
To be fair, Star Trek is a little notorious for taking earth expressions and tossing in alien references to make them sound “space-y”.:lol:
 
This review plays into that: https://www.gamegrin.com/reviews/star-trek-prodigy-supernova-review/
"Dal makes frequent references which literally boil down to “[Thing] is like [Star Trek species] [noun]!”. A direct quote is “We’re up a Romulan river without a paddle”, another is “He’s trying to trap us like Caitians”. We’ve been told that Dal has little knowledge of the Alpha Quadrant… But he somehow knows how hot a Cardassian fire pit is? I’ve seen every Star Trek show and movie and I didn’t know that Cardassia even had fire pits. And on another note what makes a Betazoid fridge specifically cold in relation to an ice planet to make Dal reference it, rather than one of the ice worlds in the Alpha Quadrant? These kids are trying to be Starfleet cadets, the ice planet of Andoria is a founding member of the Federation, come on! The writing just feels all kinds of sloppy, which is a shame because the overall story is pretty good — it’s what I’d expect a Star Trek game to be about. But Dal saying he’ll do something “by Worf’s beard!” is simply stupid since the only Enterprise-D crewmember he’s even aware of is a hologram of Beverly Crusher."

I think the reviewer has a point that this particular part of the writing is not good. All those references seem formulaic and out of character for Dal (who indeed has never heard of Worf and has never been to Cardassia). A Prodigy staff writer contributed to the game, but I doubt she was involved with those random passages (possibly more of an editing role to make sure that the character beats were correct and the main story gets neither spoiled too much nor contradicted). If anything, Dal references should come from Tars Lamora or from places he visited with Nandi.

Dal is likely learning about the Federation and its worlds in his spare time. Like any kid, he's using it to make himself sound smarter.
 
To be fair, Star Trek is a little notorious for taking earth expressions and tossing in alien references to make them sound “space-y”.:lol:
Sure, but I don't think this is good writing in the different main series, either. It always seemed like a crutch to me, formulaic writing. It's OK if some alien world/animal/product/object really has very notable properties ("logical like a Vulcan" is fair enough), but those made up references that don't ring any bell even for the audience? I don't like them.
 
How many kids-oriented simple games do you know that have good writing? :D
Btw, the Mariner and Boimler slugs had kids, and they called them Mariboims, or something like that :D
 
I agree with the reviewer - it's bad writing (for those particular references, not for the entire game, the story and general interactions between the characters are good for a game).

Take the "Romulan river" instance. Why would it be especially bad to be without a paddle on a Romulan river, as opposed to an river on Earth or Qo'nos or Alpha Centauri or wherever?

Dal doesn't speak remotely like that on the show, either.

But the events of Supernova are supposed to take place AFTER the first 10 episodes.
By this time, the kids knowledge of the UFP would have grown, and given the fact they decided to wear SF uniforms for that final mission to Tars Lamora, it stands to reason they may have decided to (mostly) embrace a LOT of UFP terminologies and expressions.
 
I've not been in the mood to deal with the puzzles, so I watched a playthrough/the ending on YouTube last night.

Bit of an abrupt ending.

We learn the class name for the Rev-12 and Rev-13 when Gwyndala identifies them as Rev ships.
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I've not been in the mood to deal with the puzzles, so I watched a playthrough/the ending on YouTube last night.

Bit of an abrupt ending.

We learn the class name for the Rev-12 and Rev-13 when Gwyndala identifies them as Rev ships.
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In which Rev likely stands for Revenant.

As in Solum returning to life and prosperity, perhaps. Or Drednok returning time and again. Or the Diviner getting revived by Noum and Ascencia.
 
I hear the game is set between episodes 19 and 20 of this season. I’ll wait until I’ve seen those episodes
 
I hear the game is set between episodes 19 and 20 of this season. I’ll wait until I’ve seen those episodes
Aaron Waltke has clarified (on Reddit, I think) that the game is set between episodes 10 and 11, and is not strictly canon (but contains some elements that may be used in the main series). He also said that the season finale will not retell what happens in the game, but that certain thematic elements are similar.
 
From the design of the plushie, somebody skilled in crafting could recreate it.
I have played the LDS game but not come across a reference to the slugs yet. Do they appear in a holodeck simulation, or in dialog scenes?
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one appears in the Episode "Much Ado about Boimler" aboard the Division 14 ship Osler and at "The Farm" on Endicronimas V. his name is Anthony and given the role of Division 14 (treating the victims of weird science accidents) he was probably a starfleet officer prior.
 
Has anyone explored the game ‘out of bounds’? I’ve looked on YouTube but found no video on such.
 
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