Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere but when the Traveller brings the crew to the edge of the universe Picard is shown with his mother as an old woman having tea. How could she have made it to old age if she killed herself when she was in her 30s? Or is this just another ridiculous oversight of established cannon by the writers?
Picard's mother in TNG Traveller Episode
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Addressed in the latest episode, which you apparently watched.
And it's "canon" which is not written in stone, nor is it's cousin continuity.
Imagination. It's amazing.
When I saw this thread I thought it was going to give props to the writers of the latest episode for actually referencing that particular scene in TNG. The OP even mentions the "tea" part.
But no, it's another lame complaint by one of the detractors. And someone went to the trouble of registering an account just to post it.
But no, it's another lame complaint by one of the detractors. And someone went to the trouble of registering an account just to post it.
I smiled when the imagination line came out. So glad they addressed a 10 second scene from 35 years ago that only hard core fans would remember, just shows how much they care.
I talked to Terry right after I watched it and gave him kudos for that line.
I think my mother liked the line without realising it was a reference.
But, is it realistic? When people do die young, is known for loved ones to later imagine, even hallucinate, them as older people?
But, is it realistic? When people do die young, is known for loved ones to later imagine, even hallucinate, them as older people?
Doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me. We often wish things are different than what reality has dealt us.
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There suppose to be a Star Trek The Next Generation short story in a book of Picard want to join Star Fleet. He at the age of entering the Academy. When he took the test,he fail it.
A Star Fleet Captain saw him crying and ask why he was crying and Picard told him why. The Captain told him he can retake the test next year and to be sure he past the test, read as many books he can find.
So Picard went ask his grandmother where all the books that his mom and dad had own. His grandmother said that his grandfather hide them since your parents death.
Then it was mention that Picard mom died when he was young and it was Picard whom found her and his dad died some years later.
So his grandmother went and got the books, then told him not to let his grandfather see him with them.
A Star Fleet Captain saw him crying and ask why he was crying and Picard told him why. The Captain told him he can retake the test next year and to be sure he past the test, read as many books he can find.
So Picard went ask his grandmother where all the books that his mom and dad had own. His grandmother said that his grandfather hide them since your parents death.
Then it was mention that Picard mom died when he was young and it was Picard whom found her and his dad died some years later.
So his grandmother went and got the books, then told him not to let his grandfather see him with them.
He supressed the memory of her death.
Trauma can do strange things to the mind.
I don't think he suppressed the memory of her death. I actually think the retcon was that it was a lot freakier encounter than we assumed.
In the Traveller episode, Picard isn't seeing his mother. He's seeing his fantasy of his mother if she hadn't killed herself.
Which is a lot more personal a daydream.
He did, it's even brought up in this episode when he is opening the door, when he starts to remember finding her.
Well I mean I think he suppressed his role in her suicide, not that she was dead.
Apparently it was me who made the oversight, I'll have to go back and rewatch the end of the episode. I don't think Season 2 has been terrible, despite the general consensus, I liked the flashbacks to Picard's youth and character development and I liked the integration of Jurati and the Borg Queen, although I think it could have been done without defanging the Federation's greatest foe I actually had to go back and watch Q-Who and Scorpion to get that taste out of my mouth. They did that with the Ferengi in the last episode of DS9 as well.
That happened in Voyager.
Looking at the episode polls here, it being terrible is not a general consensus.
But that's what Star Trek always does. Look what happened to the Klingons with TNG and ST6.
I’ve been working away for the last week or so, and watched episode 8 and 9 last night.
Just watched episode 5 of moon knight.
Fascinating to see the suppression of a parental death in the exact same week.
In the TNG ep, Picard is having a vision of his mother drinking tea. It was not real. Picard ep 9 actually refers to it when Picard says "I liked to imagine her an old woman, drinking tea". So the scene in the TNG episode was a fantasy from Picard's imagination. It was comforting to pretend his mother was old and drinking tea rather than accept the reality of how she died.
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