PIC S3 Ships & Tech
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Got enough impulse engines there?
The new Titan was based on Bill Krause’s late 23rd century original design of his USS Shangri-la. About 80% of the components are exactly the same.
The other prominent Starfleet ship in the trailer is based on another old Eaves concept art design from an aborted video game from a decade ago, just like the Inquiry class was.
There’s also what looks like a variant of the Sagan class, only with two upper nacelles and no lower ones.
I also thought I saw a California class ship both inside and out of Spacedock.
There are some other ships in the background, but they’re too small to make out what class they are.
The other prominent Starfleet ship in the trailer is based on another old Eaves concept art design from an aborted video game from a decade ago, just like the Inquiry class was.
There’s also what looks like a variant of the Sagan class, only with two upper nacelles and no lower ones.
I also thought I saw a California class ship both inside and out of Spacedock.
There are some other ships in the background, but they’re too small to make out what class they are.
depends on when the previous one was retired. We know for certain that Riker’s Titan was active at least from 2379 to 2382, but we don’t know if it was a newish or oldish ship and we don’t know when it was destroyed. Since Picard season 3 takes place in the early 25th century there are twenty-odd years for anything to happen.
I agree it’s a weird choice, though.
It’s also weird that a commander, and not a captain, appears to be the new Titan’s commanding officer. But perhaps the trailer is misleading?
…Which could easily place it anywhere from the late 2360s.
But yes, in the books and so on it’s meant to be a cutting edge ship and also on lower decks it comes out as an exciting vessel to be on.
But yes, in the books and so on it’s meant to be a cutting edge ship and also on lower decks it comes out as an exciting vessel to be on.
I just wish they would've used the Luna Class Titan with a Warp Nacelle & Pod upgrade.
So many greebles. 
The golden age of beautiful ship design may be waning. 
One good thing, cash won't be flying out of my pocket to acquire this.
The Luna class is an example of a large number of the ships of its class having sequential registry numbers denoting their build times. The U.S.S. Luna herself has a registry of 80101, while the Titan's is 80102. Logically, one can infer that if the Titan was new as of 2379, then the class ship was also built in that year. While it's true that we don't actually know the date of the Titan's commissioning, the implication in Nemesis was that the ship was brand-new. Of course, I also feel that the implication in Nemesis was that the Titan was supposed to be a huge ship, even larger than the Enterprise-E, because the term 'titan' denotes the Greek gods, not the moons named after those gods as how Pocket Books interpreted the term.
Very evocative of the Constitution Class, but a seeming diversion from the TNG asthetic. I think the ship is fine - but it fits in with the TOS movie era more appropriately. What I am wondering is are those final renders. There's some good texture mapping, but the poly count looks quite low. That shot from the back really does look like a video game. I remember watching the trailer for Star Trek Beyond and thinking that the vfx were poor and then when I saw the movie, they had spent more time on them and they looked fantastic. I wonder if the same thing will happen here? Looks a bit janky to me as is.
afaik the USS Luna is not canon. Registries are quite inconsistent all around in any case.
It was one of the ships in Picard’s fleet in the first episode of season 2.
That’s why I made the distinction about the Luna class registries being chronological.
I stand corrected.
still, this doesn’t say much on the age of these ships, only that they were likely built around the same time.
The design basically shows that they were at least designed around the same time as the Akira and Sovereign classes (circa 2360-70.)
which is what I wrote above.
Behind the Titan (to the right) in the shot of it leaving spacedock, there's what appears to be one of those video game-style Nebula class type ships (I can't remember what they're called) docked at a pier/pontoon. And I hope @Dukhat is right that that's a Cali class at the bottom of the lower 'mushroom'.
I really like Bill Krause's Shangri La, but the extra impulse engines and the hideous, hideous new warp nacelles are really dragging it down (I find that they detract from the Stargazer-A, too). I suspect that we haven't seen the 'hero' ship yet, and this Titan is a bit of a red herring - I mean, isn't it unusual to reveal the hero ship so prominently such a long time before the show airs? (Although, perhaps not - after all, it's supposed to be about the characters rather than the ships, but you know us ship fans
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I really like Bill Krause's Shangri La, but the extra impulse engines and the hideous, hideous new warp nacelles are really dragging it down (I find that they detract from the Stargazer-A, too). I suspect that we haven't seen the 'hero' ship yet, and this Titan is a bit of a red herring - I mean, isn't it unusual to reveal the hero ship so prominently such a long time before the show airs? (Although, perhaps not - after all, it's supposed to be about the characters rather than the ships, but you know us ship fans
)Meh. On its own, I don't dislike the new Titan, but it's way too anachronistic. With some period-appropriate tweaks it would be a good 23rd century design, but it just looks like an updated Constitution and as such out of place in the late 24th/early 25th. I'm a bit annoyed about this recent trend of updating old designs.
I suppose that, given they were building Mirandas and Excelsiors well into the five-digit era, there’s no reason why a new ship of an older class couldn’t have the same name as a prior ship of a newer class, even though in practice, I don’t think we’ve seen, say, a name go from an Ambassador to a Miranda, or a Nebula to an Excelsior.
I suspect PIC will heavily imply this is the same ship discussed in NEM, and that it’s “actually” the second Titan Riker commanded will be a fun fact for explainer articles and YouTube videos, though I think the producers are overestimating how slick they can be considering we’ve had an official, ubiquitous Titan design for longer than we had no idea what the ship looked like in the first place.
I suspect PIC will heavily imply this is the same ship discussed in NEM, and that it’s “actually” the second Titan Riker commanded will be a fun fact for explainer articles and YouTube videos, though I think the producers are overestimating how slick they can be considering we’ve had an official, ubiquitous Titan design for longer than we had no idea what the ship looked like in the first place.
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