Ori stargates...

[P0sitr0nic]

Anyone else disapointed we never got to see an actual Ori galaxy gate?

We saw ring transporters, which looked kind of Elven, with the leaf pattern, but never a normal gate.

My theroy is they likely looked like the SG-U style gates except white with the leaf motif. They would be OLD, pre Milky Way gates, which the SG-U gates are.


What about you? How would you postulate the Ori gates?

 

[David cgc]

About the same. One little touch I imagined was that the event horizon would have the appearance of fire rather than water.

 

[Brent]

I don't think the Ori had stargates in their galaxy. Keep in mind that it was the Ancients (Alterans) that pursued science and invented the stargates while in the Milky Way galaxy. In The Ark of Truth they even showed one of the Alterans grab a sketch about an "idea" he had, the Stargates, and off they launched from the planet in their spaceship. There is no evidence the Ori had stargates at all. The only reason why they had the big space gates was because they were ascended at this time and had the knowledge to build them now, same for the ring transporter, they probably had priors build the transporters once the Ori were ascended and gained the knowledge to do it.

 

[David cgc]

There is no evidence the Ori had stargates at all.

The Priors first arrived in our galaxy by stargate. The components of the supergates were shipped here by stargate.

Of course, we know from Orlin's mini-gate and the fact that they dialed a regular gate into the supergate in "The Pegasus Project" that different-sized stargates are compatible, so you could argue that the Ori just have the one supergate, which they dialed into the Milky Way planets, and then sent each Prior through by parking a ship next to it and kicking him out the airlock.

 

[Gepard]

...and then sent each Prior through by parking a ship next to it and kicking him out the airlock.

That would actually be pretty badass.

 

[P0sitr0nic]

I don't think the Ori had stargates in their galaxy. Keep in mind that it was the Ancients (Alterans) that pursued science and invented the stargates while in the Milky Way galaxy. In The Ark of Truth they even showed one of the Alterans grab a sketch about an "idea" he had, the Stargates, and off they launched from the planet in their spaceship. There is no evidence the Ori had stargates at all. The only reason why they had the big space gates was because they were ascended at this time and had the knowledge to build them now, same for the ring transporter, they probably had priors build the transporters once the Ori were ascended and gained the knowledge to do it.

Vala went thru the super gate onto an Ori planet. Thru a stargate. They have gates.

 

[The Wormhole]

I think Vala even made a referance to an Ori Stargate in Crusade.

 

[Islander]

The Ori have gate technology and pretty much most of the Alteran's technologies with minor difference due to millenias of distinct evolution but most of the technology has the same basis.

The Ori were religious, not Amish.

 

[Brent]

But it was the Alterans who invented the gates, AFTER they left for the Milky Way.

The ONLY way the Ori could have built the gates was AFTER they ascended.

 

[David cgc]

Fair enough. That leaves several million years for them to have built stargates. They might also have stolen the technology when they first found the Ancients in the Milky Way and gave them the Prior's Plague, or they might've discovered the Destiny or one of the seeder ships, stolen the stargates from that, and then backtracked its course to the Milky Way.

Or they might've invented it independently after the Ancients left, but before they all ascended. If they already had the technology base when the race split, then it couldn't have been that hard to put the pieces together. Things like the telephone and the powered airplane were or nearly were invented independently by multiple parties, after all, because they were a natural outgrowth of where society and technology was at the time.

 

[P0sitr0nic]

Seeing as they have ring transporters that look to be almost exactly the same as ours, just asthetically different, it stands to reason they have gates of almost the exact same specifications as ours. I thought about the SGU gates as theyre older than anything weve seen before, and yet still to the precise dimentions of all the other gates.

 

[BenRoethig]

But it was the Alterans who invented the gates, AFTER they left for the Milky Way.

The ONLY way the Ori could have built the gates was AFTER they ascended.

Not exactly. Remember that the reason that Alterrans left the Milky Way for Pegasus was because of Ori biological warfare. We also don't know when gate technology was was created. The technology could have been invented in the home galaxy they shared with the Ori or the technology could have been been stolen by spies or defectors.

 

[Brent]

But it was the Alterans who invented the gates, AFTER they left for the Milky Way.

The ONLY way the Ori could have built the gates was AFTER they ascended.

Not exactly. Remember that the reason that Alterrans left the Milky Way for Pegasus was because of Ori biological warfare. We also don't know when gate technology was was created. The technology could have been invented in the home galaxy they shared with the Ori or the technology could have been been stolen by spies or defectors.

At the beginning of the Ark of Truth, one of the Alteran scientists had a sketch of the Stargate saying he had a new "idea" about something, and he grabbed that paper as they were all leaving on their spaceship away from their home planet. We do know that the Milky Way was where the gates were invented and implemented first, that has been established for quite a while.

 

[Islander]

But it was the Alterans who invented the gates, AFTER they left for the Milky Way.

The ONLY way the Ori could have built the gates was AFTER they ascended.

Says who? The gates were invented by the Ancients. Our ancient are the Alterans but the Ori are the Ancients in another galaxy. They are they same original race.

Also, they clearly had contact with the Alterans since they actually were at war with them as shown with the original ori plague that nearly killed everything in the milky way.

Even if they didn't have any contact, they had the ability to develop this technolgy as well. As rocket is a rocket, both US and USSR rockets were only different in asthetics, not principles. A stargate is a stargate.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

I always figured the Ori rings WERE their equivalent of a stargate. When Danny & Vala first went there, the Prior led them away from the generic medeival village (tm) and the next thing they knew they were ringed onto the plains of Celestis, which is on another planet. They don't mention it, but I think they just used the ring technology to travel interstellar - we know that OUR rings can go between a planet and moon, so why can't theirs go further?

Mark

 

[Checkmate]

The most likely explanation is that the Ori reverse-engineered the technology after stumbling upon a few rings left by the Destiny and her sister ship.

As others have mentioned, the Ancients developed the technology long, long after the split apart from the Ori. Even longer than the Destiny has been out there doing her thing. And a stargate isn't really the kind of technology you'd develop simultaneously between two vastly different (and after millions of years, they would be vastly different) cultures. If so, then the Asgard, Nox and Furlings should all have the same technologies, too.

Yeah. Reverse-engineering it after getting their hands on some of them is the most likely reasoning. And since they maintained an active role in the universe even after they ascended, it's not surprising that their stargates could do some really amazing and different things.

 

[Brent]

I like the idea better that if the Ori have stargates, they built them AFTER they ascended. This would have allowed them to gain the knowledge to do so. They don't play by the same rules as the Ancients, so they would have no problem interfering and building a network of Stargates to make it easier to spread the word of Origin.

 

[Checkmate]

Would they really need that kind of technology after they ascended, though? Intergalactic spaceflight was clearly within their capabilities considering the two races split apart millions and millions of years ago, so getting from one planet to another wouldn't have been that difficult. And since it would just be their little minions that they'd have to occasionally transport, it just wouldn't seem like something they'd worry about.

Couple that with the fact that they can travel anywhere they like within their sphere of influence on a whim (what, being ascended and all), and that they could make anyone they liked into a prior... yeah. Just not much of a reason for it.

Now if they already had the technology, improving it a bit wouldn't be too unreasonable.

 

[Islander]

The Nox, the Furlings and the Asguards came after the stargate network was estalish. That's how they met and that's actually why it is the Asguard are the first to call the Ancients: The Ancients. And they wouldn't have made the destiny and the seeder ship saying "hmmm. well wait 100000 or so years to invent the stargate so this ship would have a purpose...".

The technology behing the stargate likely existed before the Alteran/Ori split or developed in close relation soon after. Maybe the idea of a planetary network only came later, but not the technology.

 

[Brent]

The technology behing the stargate likely existed before the Alteran/Ori split

IT DID NOT, according to all the information we know

The beginning scene in the Ark of Truth even proves that