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Mythbusters -- fire & water

Christopher

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When I saw the promo, I thought the idea of using a water stream as a current path for a stungun was a good one. But Adam & Jamie showed there were a lot of problems with the idea. I hadn't considered the difficulty of getting a continuous stream (though I should've remembered the similar myths they've done about urination on an electrified fence or a third rail of a subway -- though I try not to think too much about those kinds of myth). Plus there's the resistance issue and the impracticality of getting a supply of salt water.

I was thinking that maybe if this couldn't work as a sidearm-type thing, maybe it could work as a crowd control device with a hose or something, but after that last test, I doubt it. As we saw, the stream from Jamie's gun didn't actually reach the target intact; it just let the current get close enough to the target to arc the rest of the way through the air. And it takes an immense, no doubt lethal voltage to overcome the resistance of water and air enough to do that.

But Jamie actually sat inside a Tesla coil and fired lightning! How cool is that?

On the extinguisher thing, I disagree with their Plausible assessment, because the intent of the myth is that it's the actual contents of the fire extinguisher that douse the flames, rather than the force of the explosion dispersing the fuel. So what actually happened is not what the myth specifies. Maybe you could say that the result is plausible, but the proposed mechanism is totally busted.

The firewalking thing was informative. I'd always understood that the reason firewalkers didn't get burned was because the coals are traditionally surrounded by wet grass and the water on the feet provides insulation from the heat. I'm surprised the Mythbusters didn't even mention that part, because it's sort of the stock explanation for how firewalking works. But the explanations they gave actually make more sense than that alone. I mean, your feet can't get too wet from walking across damp grass. Maybe it helps a little, but the factors they cited here -- briefness of contact, light steps, the insulating properties of charcoal and ash -- are probably a lot more important.
 
Totally coincidental, I'm sure, but I thought it was funny they did the water stun gun on the one year anniversary of Andrew Meyers and his famous "don't tase me, bro!" plea.

:lol:

The lightning from the Tesla coil was pretty cool. :cool:
 
When I saw the promo, I thought the idea of using a water stream as a current path for a stungun was a good one. But Adam & Jamie showed there were a lot of problems with the idea. I hadn't considered the difficulty of getting a continuous stream (though I should've remembered the similar myths they've done about urination on an electrified fence or a third rail of a subway -- though I try not to think too much about those kinds of myth). Plus there's the resistance issue and the impracticality of getting a supply of salt water.

I was pretty sure they wouldn't be able to get it to work. Water, even salt water, isn't too fabulous an electricty conductor over a distance. I know they like to test things out in practicality but testing the resistance of sea-water in a tank over the course of several distances would've revealed the water's inability to carry the tase.

On the extinguisher thing, I disagree with their Plausible assessment, because the intent of the myth is that it's the actual contents of the fire extinguisher that douse the flames, rather than the force of the explosion dispersing the fuel. So what actually happened is not what the myth specifies. Maybe you could say that the result is plausible, but the proposed mechanism is totally busted.

The Mythbusters do this a lot and you just did it too but I sometimes wonder if people read "too much" into the wording of these myths. If Average Joe tossed a fire-exstinguisher into a fire, it exploded and afterwards the fire was out, Average Joe would assume the contents put out the fire and not piece together that it just blew the fire apart.

I'd say the myth is "Confirmed"/"Plausable" in the spirit of it. Granted, the contents didn't put out the fire but the resulting events did put it out/reduce it.


The firewalking thing was informative. I'd always understood that the reason firewalkers didn't get burned was because the coals are traditionally surrounded by wet grass and the water on the feet provides insulation from the heat. I'm surprised the Mythbusters didn't even mention that part, because it's sort of the stock explanation for how firewalking works. But the explanations they gave actually make more sense than that alone. I mean, your feet can't get too wet from walking across damp grass. Maybe it helps a little, but the factors they cited here -- briefness of contact, light steps, the insulating properties of charcoal and ash -- are probably a lot more important.

I'd already seen a special in the past on firewalking that revealed "how it works" so little surprised me in this "Myth." It was still interesting to do this, but as it was explained to me, coals are porous (filled with holes) so they don't conduct heat well. (In fact I think their "expert" in this episode was the same guy in the special I saw) Their Expert demonstrated this by baking a cake in an oven. The oven is at 400* but we don't worry about the air in the oven burning us, touch the cake you don't worry about it burning you, but touching the metal of the oven or the cake pan and it will burn you.

The coals are like the cake, filled with holes which makes it an insulator and thus can't conduct heat to you very well. As long as you step lightly, don't stay in one place to long, or "grasp" the coals with your toes you're fine.

:)
 
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