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Mission: Impossible - Final Reckoning (2025)

Kai "the spy"

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One of the three movies I'm most excited for in 2025.
 
Hell. Yes. Can’t. Wait.

Honestly, this has to be the most consistently entertaining franchise over the years (almost 30 by the time this comes out). I don’t know if DR was quite as good as the 2 or 3 that preceded it but given how good they were, that’s not exactly an insult. Tom may be a crazy little oddball but I’ll watch him as Ethan Hunt for as long as he can walk/run/abseil/make improbably dangerous jumps of various kinds.
 
I'm sure it won't happen, but if this is really the final Ethan Hunt movie, I'd love to see an M:I reboot that's more in the caper-procedural vein of the original series, something more like Sneakers or Ocean's Eleven or Leverage than a huge action/conspiracy franchise.

Alternatively, if they retire Ethan but continue the series with Hayley Atwell as the action lead, I could certainly get behind that. That's where I thought they were heading with Rebecca Ferguson, though, and it turned out otherwise.
 
So, this seems like both a send-off an the part 2 to Dead Recknoning? I loved Part 1 and will definitely want to see this one in theatres.
 
So, this seems like both a send-off an the part 2 to Dead Recknoning? I loved Part 1 and will definitely want to see this one in theatres.

Yeah, it was going to be called Dead Reckoning Part 2, but they decided it would work better if they marketed it as a standalone, or something. As for being a send-off, that may be the plan, but film series have continued beyond their "final" installments before. Heck, Friday the 13th has had two "Final" movies, the fourth (The Final Chapter) and ninth (Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday) of twelve so far.
 
Ahh yes, I do remember now that there was a decision to rename it. Though it does make me wonder if they've had to rework it to be less dependent on the last one. Though I notice in the trailer they do have the McGuffins from the previous movie.
 
Though it does make me wonder if they've had to rework it to be less dependent on the last one. Though I notice in the trailer they do have the McGuffins from the previous movie.

Yeah, it's clearly the second half of the same story that Dead Reckoning started, not a separate story at all.

And that makes me wonder if this should be in the SF/Fantasy forum instead. A number of M:I movies (and episodes) have had speculative tech elements, but this 2-parter is built around the most overtly SF idea in the series, basically the same idea as the TV series Person of Interest.
 
Hell. Yes. Can’t. Wait.

Honestly, this has to be the most consistently entertaining franchise over the years (almost 30 by the time this comes out). I don’t know if DR was quite as good as the 2 or 3 that preceded it but given how good they were, that’s not exactly an insult. Tom may be a crazy little oddball but I’ll watch him as Ethan Hunt for as long as he can walk/run/abseil/make improbably dangerous jumps of various kinds.
They've been better than Bond for probably twenty years now.
 
They've been better than Bond for probably twenty years now.
They are. Though both have of late been unduly reliant on the trope of the hero going rogue. I think Craig’s 007 quit or was suspended from MI6 more than all his predecessor put together, while Ethan’s M:I team seemed to go on the run in nearly every movie.
 
They are. Though both have of late been unduly reliant on the trope of the hero going rogue. I think Craig’s 007 quit or was suspended from MI6 more than all his predecessor put together, while Ethan’s M:I team seemed to go on the run in nearly every movie.
Agree, though at least MI has the built-in conceit of " the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions" if the IMF failed/were caught/killed.
 
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Whilst Spectre is terrible, Quantum of Solace poorly thought of (though not so much be me) and NTTD a bit of a curate's egg, for me Casino Royale and Skyfall are better films than any of the MI ones, even the first one.

I enjoy the Mission Impossible films, but for me at least they kinda blur into each other, especially the McQuarrie ones, so I don't tend to go back to them. The exceptions to that would be the first one, which is a very different beast to the franchise now, and Ghost Protocol, which is perhaps the one that most evoked the team ethic of the series.

It'll be interesting to see where they go with the franchise once Cruise leaves. Tom is inextricably linked to the franchise now, and remember they tried to do a Bourne film without Damon and that fell flat. I think they had an opportunity to shift away from Cruise after Ghost Protocol but instead they sidelined Renner and leaned back into Tom's star power, and once that star power is gone...

Meanwhile because the Bond franchise is about the character rather than the star it's been able to survive losing Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan and eventually it'll survive losing Craig as well once Eon pull their finger out.

I could be completely wrong of course. Maybe in 2028 we'll be talking about how amazing a Haley Atwell led Mission Impossible 9 is and still wondering when Eon will cast a new 007 ;)
 
I enjoy the Mission Impossible films, but for me at least they kinda blur into each other, especially the McQuarrie ones, so I don't tend to go back to them. The exceptions to that would be the first one, which is a very different beast to the franchise now, and Ghost Protocol, which is perhaps the one that most evoked the team ethic of the series.
I agree with your assessments of MI1 and Ghost Protocol, but I'm surprised you don't include MI2, which was an order of magnitude dumber, shallower, and flashier than any of the others. It's notable that MI2 is the only older M:I movie that the continuity-heavy McQuarrie films have never referenced or brought back characters from. I tend to regard it as non-canonical; at most, it's a self-aggrandizing fantasy that young Ethan Hunt scribbled in his notebook margins back in spy school.

Back when there were only three M:I movies, I was struck by how different they were from one another. They weren't a series at all, they were three otherwise unconnected spy movies with a title and two characters in common. They bore more resemblance to their respective directors' ouevres than to each other: the first was a typical Brian DePalma noir-conspiracy thriller, the second a typical over-the-top John Woo action-fest, the third was J.J. Abrams doing Alias: The Movie. It was only once Abrams's Bad Robot took over producing the series with GP that it started to show any real continuity of story and characters and any real consistency of quality, perhaps since Bad Robot started as a TV production company, so that its creative team was experienced at series storytelling. In fact, Dead Reckoning was not from Bad Robot, the first M:I film since MI2 that Abrams had no involvement with, and I found it the weakest installment since MI2.


It'll be interesting to see where they go with the franchise once Cruise leaves. Tom is inextricably linked to the franchise now, and remember they tried to do a Bourne film without Damon and that fell flat. I think they had an opportunity to shift away from Cruise after Ghost Protocol but instead they sidelined Renner and leaned back into Tom's star power, and once that star power is gone...
Could be a reason to go with my preference of a full-on reboot that's more in the caper-procedural vein of the TV series. Any attempt to emulate the Ethan Hunt movies' high-action style without Cruise would likely fall short in comparison, so better to try something really different. I doubt they will, though.


I could be completely wrong of course. Maybe in 2028 we'll be talking about how amazing a Haley Atwell led Mission Impossible 9 is and still wondering when Eon will cast a new 007 ;)
I'd be fine with that too -- well, as long as the writing is good, which I'm no longer sure of after the relative disappointment of Dead Reckoning.
 
Yeah, it was going to be called Dead Reckoning Part 2, but they decided it would work better if they marketed it as a standalone, or something. As for being a send-off, that may be the plan, but film series have continued beyond their "final" installments before. Heck, Friday the 13th has had two "Final" movies, the fourth (The Final Chapter) and ninth (Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday) of twelve so far.
I think they took off "Dead Roeckoning , Part 2" because part 1 actually did relatively poorly, compared to expectations. Most of us had it in the top 5 in the 2023 Box Office Predictor Game but it wound up being number 13 for that year, despite the media hype . Sound of Freedom made the top 10, and even Taylor Swift's concert movie beat Misison Impossible. Box Office Mojo has the details

The final part definitely gives it a "this is it, we're pulling all the stops" feel to it, so that MAYBE people will want to see how it ends.... kinda like how the last Lord of the Rings movie topped them all.
 
Haven't seen any of them, myself. And given the reason why the late Greg Morris walked out in the middle of the first one, I probably never will.
 
Haven't seen any of them, myself. And given the reason why the late Greg Morris walked out in the middle of the first one, I probably never will.

I see a lot of people say that, and it's sad, because they're missing out. I dislike the first movie, but it's almost completely unconnected to the really excellent ones from 3 onward (well, 3 through 6 -- I found the 7th disappointing). The third movie was made a full decade after the first, six years after the second, with a completely different creative team. The first three films can hardly be considered a continuing series -- more like three standalone films of very different style and quality that happen to share a title and a common lead character or two but very little else. I think of the first two films as failed pilots for a series that didn't properly start until the third film. You could easily start with M:I III and not lose anything, although the last couple of films have referenced characters and elements from the first one.
 
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