Miranda Likes To Watch Star Trek
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i follow the Target Audience guys. They are pretty solid. I'm rewatching TNG for this first time since first-run because of them. Although, I will probably quit after S3.
but that's when it gets good!
not to me. thats when it gets boring, talky, preachy, the good comedy and music leaves, the good sci fi fun plots are mostly over, and i lose interest very quickly. I love season 1 and 2; i love how much more in line with TOS the stories are, i love the weird sci fi plots, the more it goes towards character and morality based stories at the expense of fun sci fi, i lose interest very quickly. i like geordi on the bridge, i like pulaski, etc. It doesn't get much better then best of both worlds, and its already aired yesterday's enterprise and sarek. there is very little reason for me to continue past S3, and i like how my preferred viewing orders parallels TOS - 3 solid seasons, skip the first movie, and you're all good......
While I don't share your enthusiasm, I definitely understand it. The early seasons have a very "cosmic" vibe in its sets, plots, audio design, etc. I think as the creators better defined what Federation settings were like, this strange magic was largely lost, until by Voyager it was very stale to me. If only the acting wasn't so stiff.
the early stiffness just gets filtered through a strangers/professionals that work together filter, and i notice so many more background characters and extras, and it just feels like a real living ship. they aren't all best friends, they aren't people that have worked together forever; they are stiff because they are figuring out their roles on this brand new crew that was just put together a few weeks ago. I love Season 1.
I’ve never understood the pleasure some people take in watching others watch things that they have already seen. Still, that’s just me. All power to those who do.
The lady does seem very nice. Just not my thing.
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Early TNG is fantastic stuff. Hugely underrated.
The lady does seem very nice. Just not my thing.
@Phoenix219
Early TNG is fantastic stuff. Hugely underrated.
I didn't get it either for a long time. Now I watch more reactors than I can even keep track of and I can't remember how that happened.
The appeal for me, I suppose, is that it lets me get through an episode in half the time and watch it through someone else's fresh eyes and unique perspective. I don't generally rewatch episodes on my own, I don't have the patience, so reactors let me revisit things I haven't seen in years. Not that I'm looking at the screen most of the time, I treat them more like an audio commentary, so I appreciate it when they're insightful and funny.
I've seen a couple of Miranda's videos, but not enough to remember... anything about her at all. In my defence, she's up to like episode 3.
This is the first time I've really done the reactors thing, but they are more like reviewers, they have a reaction video, a review / discussion video, and a "patrons take" section. they started with TOS and are watching everything in release-order to get the proper context. I respect the hell out of the approach they are taking, even if i disagree or roll my eyes with some of their takes. its a really unique experience. i watched their TOS videos, and when it came time for TNG, they reminded me of some things I actually did like or miss about the show.
My biggest takeaway is that the farther the show goes, the more people think its "fantastic" and "hit its stride" and "finds itself"...... is also where the episodes get really heavy, and thoughtful, and... boring. listening to a debate or analyzation of a situation is fine the first time you are watching it, but there is absolutely no pull to rewatch the episodes. They hit you heavy, once. After that... its just not FUN like the first couple season, or like TOS. It might be GOOD but it doesn't encourage me to just sit down and watch an episode, like the earlier seasons. Once you know the secret or the twist or the hammer they are hitting you with, its hard to sit and watch again.
Some of these episodes are ilke brand new almost, because I haven't seen them since i was a kid, and that can be a very cool experience.
some of them are like... oh. THAT episode. i might get 20 minutes in before i reailze it, but as soon as i figure it out, its a whole lot of MEH.
The first part of Season 1 of TNG is brutal. But it started getting interesting an fun about a third of the way in. Season 2 was weird and sometimes lame, but had energy and imagination. Season 3 of TNG was pretty perfect, nearly every episode landed. After that, it started to get a little hit or miss. The family members started showing up, Spock's wasted potential in a dull two parter, every week was another "something wrong at a Federation colony" plot and so on. But when it broke that mold, it was amazing.
I remember Power Play was such a departure because they had stopped doing action/adventure regularly by then. I read in - I think - the deep coverage in Cinefantastique a quote where one of the producers said "we'd love to do action every week, but action is expensive."
I smelled BS since the original series did action/adventure regularly on a fraction of the budget with reused effects. Contemporary syndicated shows were doing action/adventure for less money. They just didn't want to be an action/adventure series. I get that. TNG was a classy show but it became a "point and shoot" drama on fancy sets with offbeat costumes. I watched and taped it every week, but of the all the Berman era sequels, it's the one I revisit the least.
I remember Power Play was such a departure because they had stopped doing action/adventure regularly by then. I read in - I think - the deep coverage in Cinefantastique a quote where one of the producers said "we'd love to do action every week, but action is expensive."
I smelled BS since the original series did action/adventure regularly on a fraction of the budget with reused effects. Contemporary syndicated shows were doing action/adventure for less money. They just didn't want to be an action/adventure series. I get that. TNG was a classy show but it became a "point and shoot" drama on fancy sets with offbeat costumes. I watched and taped it every week, but of the all the Berman era sequels, it's the one I revisit the least.
For me, and my wife illustrated this to me very well, it's a matter of two things. One, genuinely interested in another's perspective and also feeling very insecure in one's own interests. Both my wife and I struggle with anxiety so seeing someone watch something we like and enjoy it similarly is a little bit of weird external validation of what we already know.
Funny that this "Miranda" would start with what I regard as the most nightmarish of episodes. Then again, I also found it odd that NBC would start with that episode.
Similar story here. Used to think it was ridiculous, now I have several that I watch regularly and actually follow one, Sesskasays, on Patreon.
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these are the dudes that got me watching TNG again for the first time in decades. Picard Season 3 smoothed things over for me, but these guys got me active again.
I like a youtube reactor named Bunnytails for TOS. I've also watched a lot of the Target Audience ones.
She's going broadcast order, because that how the box set she's using has them formatted. Also watching the versions with the original SFX.
Yeah, I intend to continue watching TA for the entire run. Their reactions to 5-7 are going to be better than gold, and their reactions to 1 & 2 were beyond platinum. Just not all for the same reasons, I hope...
I think it makes perfect sense. 1966 SF-TV was mostly about monsters, so the creature was exploitable. NBC wanted a show with an alien planet strongly featured. It was one of the few episodes ready to go. It wasn't about a kid hitting puberty or the lead's violent dark side. And apparently everyone involved felt the pilot episode was too expository and, I guess, too different from the series proper to kick off the run.
I always loved The Man Trap, so it never bothered me that it was the premiere episode.
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