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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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Skywalker said:
Captain Marvel's the boss. Black Panther just pays for everything and makes everyone look cool.
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Yeah, that makes more sense and not just for the parallelism. T'Challa might decide he wants to focus more on running Wakanda and deal with local issues but is available for larger issues that may concern the Avengers. Or maybe he'll spend some time with the Avengers, leaving Shuri in charge, but either way, I don't see him hanging with the Avengers full time.
 
The Scrooge Doctor said:
Yeah, that makes more sense and not just for the parallelism. T'Challa might decide he wants to focus more on running Wakanda and deal with local issues but is available for larger issues that may concern the Avengers. Or maybe he'll spend some time with the Avengers, leaving Shuri in charge, but either way, I don't see him hanging with the Avengers full time.
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I don't think Shuri would WANT to be in charge...she would get miserable quick. Nakia would be better (and the movie stated she is qualified to be queen ;) )
 
JD said:
Terry Gilliam, the former Monty Python member and director of The Adventures of Baron Munchausen and Brazil, thinks that Black Panther is "utter bullshit". He really, really seems to hate it.
He sounds to me like he just doesn't understand why it was so important to a lot of people.
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Mage said:
I saw that somewhere yesterday.... Really couldn't wrap my head around his odd comments....
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Christopher said:
It's hard to tell, even from the original article. They may not have reproduced the entirety of his comments. But I think he's saying it's too idealized, as part of his broader criticism of superhero movies making their heroes too powerful so they can achieve things too easily, rather than being the underdogs his films tend to center on. Which I think demonstrates that maybe he's not really familiar with the films, or with the general Marvel tradition of screwed-up heroes whose personal problems are as extreme as their superpowers.

Still, I'm starting to realize that people like Gilliam and Scorsese have a point. His interview with IndieWire was primarily about The Man who Killed Don Quixote and Gilliam's battles with the studio and the way blockbusters are eating up so much money and talent that there's little left for small or medium-sized films, but the only part anyone's talking about is his Black Panther comment. On the other hand, his comment does seem pretty tone-deaf.
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Agony_Boothb said:
I think he does, but his issue is that the politics overshadowed the artistic piece being objectively critiqued. Black Panther was groundbreaking in some ways, but it's also a pretty formulaic movie and suffers from the same issues that most marvel films suffer from. I think if you were to ask Gilliam what he thought of Spider-Man Homecoming or Endgame, he'd think they were bullshit too.
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The Mary Sue's weighed in on this, too.

https://www.themarysue.com/terry-gilliam-infuriating-black-panther-opinions/
 
Jokes aside: betting that it's a joint financing for the MCU Avengers from 2023 onward: Stark Industries (via Pepper), Wakandan defense outreach, and whoever else is willing and able to throw cash/tech/people into the mix.
 
DEWLine said:
Jokes aside: betting that it's a joint financing for the MCU Avengers from 2023 onward: Stark Industries (via Pepper), Wakandan defense outreach, and whoever else is willing and able to throw cash/tech/people into the mix.
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Does Stark Industries still exist? I got the feeling it would have collapsed due to the Snap, seeing how Tony was fine living out in a (high tech) cottage with Pepper away from any cities.
 
Anwar said:
Does Stark Industries still exist? I got the feeling it would have collapsed due to the Snap, seeing how Tony was fine living out in a (high tech) cottage with Pepper away from any cities.
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Umm...work from home?

Also Pepper is smart enough to put good people in place for most management stuff
 
Yep. Tony and Pepper would have had a good management team in place, complete with backup options.
 
JD said:
Terry Gilliam, the former Monty Python member and director of The Adventures of Baron Munchausen and Brazil, thinks that Black Panther is "utter bullshit". He really, really seems to hate it.
He sounds to me like he just doesn't understand why it was so important to a lot of people.
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I certainty 'get' why it was such an important movie. Massively important.

I just don't think it was one of the best Marvel movies, which it's importance appears to have elevated it to.
 
Way to start the new year off with some good news!

The video they released listed Falcon & Winter Soldier first, then WandaVision, and then Mandalorian season 2. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it's entirely possible that will be the release order too. Falcon & Winter Soldier from August-mid September, WandaVision from mid September-October, Mandalorian from November-December.

20 straight weeks of live action goodness to finish out the year!
 
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