Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probation.

[Philo]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

My friends next-door used a label maker to put a sticker on their mailbox that said, "PAS DE MOTHERFUCKING CIRCULAIRES". That worked just fine for them.

I don't mind junk mail, personally. If I see something I want to use like a haircut coupon or a pizza coupon, I'll keep it and chuck everything else. Although the everything else tends to be 99.9% of all the junk mail. No harm, no foul. Junk mail isn't intrusive like spam or telemarketers.

You know, I have to agree. I've never minded junk mail. Only takes a moment to look through and sometimes it really does let you know about new local businesses or events or discount deals. I'm on the preference services to stop telemarketing and am not a big fan of spam email either... but junk snail mail has never bothered me at all.

Yeah, while I absolutely sympathize with those who hate junk mail, I don't have a problem with it myself. In fact, on the contrary. Ever since I was a kid, I got excited when the new weekly flyers came so I can see what's on sale at the grocery stores. That said, these days I often just look at them online.

Also, it'd be a terrible idea to raise the postage rate. The advertisers and bill senders would just pay the extra amount and it would kill letter and card sending even faster than it already is.

 

[Ben Sisko3]

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This guy's a winner. I have a lot of problems with my local post office -- I keep getting mail addressed to former tenants who lived here four or five residents ago being one of the more minor issues -- and I'd love to buy this guy a beer or six.

 

[Captain Ice]

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I think the guy should be applauded and would love to buy him a beer.

We get a ton of junk mail everyday. Something on the order of 80% of the incoming mail is junk mail of one sort or another and, like a few others here except for the loan/credit card offers that I shred, it doesn't make it past the bin at the end of the line of mailboxes.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

I don't mind junk mail, personally. If I see something I want to use like a haircut coupon or a pizza coupon, I'll keep it and chuck everything else. Although the everything else tends to be 99.9% of all the junk mail. No harm, no foul. Junk mail isn't intrusive like spam or telemarketers.

You know, I have to agree. I've never minded junk mail. Only takes a moment to look through and sometimes it really does let you know about new local businesses or events or discount deals. I'm on the preference services to stop telemarketing and am not a big fan of spam email either... but junk snail mail has never bothered me at all.

Same here. That's where I get good deals on local restaurants and stores. The rest is easy enough to sort through in a couple of seconds.

 

[DBR]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

I don't mind junk mail, personally. If I see something I want to use like a haircut coupon or a pizza coupon, I'll keep it and chuck everything else. Although the everything else tends to be 99.9% of all the junk mail. No harm, no foul. Junk mail isn't intrusive like spam or telemarketers.

You know, I have to agree. I've never minded junk mail. Only takes a moment to look through and sometimes it really does let you know about new local businesses or events or discount deals. I'm on the preference services to stop telemarketing and am not a big fan of spam email either... but junk snail mail has never bothered me at all.

Same here. That's where I get good deals on local restaurants and stores. The rest is easy enough to sort through in a couple of seconds.

I'm with you guys. What bothers me, is when I get flyers delivered (not by post man, but by a different service) and they don't bother to wrap them in a rubber band or roll them up and put 'em into a bag, because sometimes they make a horrendous mess from the wind and then I have to sort them all out before I look at them, or they blow all over my front porch.

Or they could just use the mail box.

 

[Star Wolf]

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Active USPS letter carrier checking in. 3 years ago in the two stations I worked in 15 letter carrier were fired after an investigation by the OIG over non-deliver of the most hated junk mail. The then ADVO of missing child card fame and Penny Savers. Since that year, we were the first I know of district across the nation have faced the massed raids and firings.

In the end the carrier got their jobs back but all of the carriers I know who have been fired has been over this issue. The year after the Los Angeles district raids St Petersberg Florida was raided and those carriers presented letters from the residents requesting non deliver but like my office mates took about the same 6 months to be reinstated with back pay. The year after was BattleCreek MI. Since then I haven't been on the postal foorums as much to keep track.

 

[Star Wolf]

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I really should go to the post office and register as a no junk mail recipient. -If it weren't for those two folders a week I actually haven't found a e-version of yet.

I just checked on the US Postal Service's website, and it doesn't look like we have that option in the US. If we did, I'd be on it like white on rice.

You only have that option with sexual ads when dealing with USPS. Any other mailing you have to get off the mailers address list. Maybe 1 in 1000 people take the time too contact the companies so they no longer receive current resident mailings. And that was after we all started delivereing after seeing 25% of our workforce removed by postal inspectors, they do it almost like an arrest as two federal agents walk you off the work floor, awaiting the formal firing by USPS.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

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Well done, Mailman Steve!

Too bad he apparently didn't have a fireplace. He could have heated his home for free!

 

[sidious618]

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He is truly the greatest postal employee who's ever lived.

What about Newman?

 

[Star Wolf]

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Well done, Mailman Steve!

Too bad he apparently didn't have a fireplace. He could have heated his home for free!

I remember an old Barney Miller episode where the mailman only delivered TV guides, checks, and personal letters. While Steve may aviod jail he broke the code. He did not deliver what his customer the advertiser paid for. And make no mistake the USPS is able to deliver your letters for a token price and remain competetive with UPS and FedEx in the parcel business because of direct advertising mail.

 

[tharpdevenport]

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We were never worried at out station. The uppper halls with small black windows where inspectors can watch were usually emtpy. When one was in there, he broke fenderal law by smoking in a postal station; we could all smell it.

 

[trekkiedane]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

Well done, Mailman Steve!

Too bad he apparently didn't have a fireplace. He could have heated his home for free!

No, bad idea! -theft and destruction of mail would probably land you in jail under any circumstances -storing it is a totally different story!

Besides, most junk mail doesn't burn well and the ashes is a mess.

 

[enlisted person]

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I think all the other mail men should make sure that judge gets his full share of junk mail in his box. I would jam it full every frickin day.

 

[Star Wolf]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

We were never worried at out station. The uppper halls with small black windows where inspectors can watch were usually emtpy. When one was in there, he broke fenderal law by smoking in a postal station; we could all smell it.

Until that day 4 years ago when one by one the Agents walked 9 carriers out of my station and 6 more out of a station I worked for three years I didn't worry about it either. For the record they didn't use the walkways except to mount cameras, they audited the waste BBM or got public informers who complained they saw a mailman dump some ads in the trash. Before then the only people I knew of who were fired were TEs and new PTFs who dumped ads to save time rather then get into trouble about overtime usage.

 

[jkladis]

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I'm not so sure. What gives him the right to determine what's junkmail and what isn't? That's not his job. All the mailman is tasked to do, is *deliver*.

All the more reason to erect a statue in his honor.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

I'm not so sure. What gives him the right to determine what's junkmail and what isn't? That's not his job. All the mailman is tasked to do, is *deliver*.

All the more reason to erect a statue in his honor.

I see. So what happens if he makes a mistake? Or if he decides to throw away your perfectly legitimate mail out of spite?

I repeat: It's not the mailman's job to question the legitimacy of the mail they deliver. Their sole function in this world is to deliver *everything* that's mailed. I certainly don't care for junk mail, but if I get some, I can easily get rid of it myself. I don't want the mailman doing it for me.

 

[Cicero]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

I'm not so sure. What gives him the right to determine what's junkmail and what isn't? That's not his job. All the mailman is tasked to do, is *deliver*.

All the more reason to erect a statue in his honor.

I see. So what happens if he makes a mistake? Or if he decides to throw away your perfectly legitimate mail out of spite?

I repeat: It's not the mailman's job to question the legitimacy of the mail they deliver. Their sole function in this world is to deliver *everything* that's mailed. I certainly don't care for junk mail, but if I get some, I can easily get rid of it myself. I don't want the mailman doing it for me.

Junk mail needs to be stopped. It's horribly wasteful in trees, ink, industrial waste, and pollution caused by transportation.

Or they could just use the mail box.

Isn't that illegal?

 

[Star Wolf]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

All the more reason to erect a statue in his honor.

I see. So what happens if he makes a mistake? Or if he decides to throw away your perfectly legitimate mail out of spite?

I repeat: It's not the mailman's job to question the legitimacy of the mail they deliver. Their sole function in this world is to deliver *everything* that's mailed. I certainly don't care for junk mail, but if I get some, I can easily get rid of it myself. I don't want the mailman doing it for me.

Junk mail needs to be stopped. It's horribly wasteful in trees, ink, industrial waste, and pollution caused by transportation.

Or they could just use the mail box.

Isn't that illegal?

The USPS maintains a monopoly on the mailbox for two reasons. First if other carriers place their hands in it they can remove what the postman delivered for either industrial sabotage reasons or just theft by the UPS driver, FedEx courier, or the subwaged illegal alien dropping anb other set of bulk advertising. The sewcond reason is if the advertisers can pay illegal alien wages to mix their product with the first class mail and magazines then why pay USPS rates to do so? Without the advertisers paying for the mail service then congress must revert to the pre 1970 Post Office operations where tax dollars and not stamps support the operations of the postal service. Also all of the military veterans who join the postal service will have their retirement benefits revert to the tax rolls instead of being funded out of the stamp revenue.

 

[Omnius]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

In the Netherlands we use an opt-out system.
You can get a free sticker for your mailbox that says you don't wish to receive unadressed (junk)mail. We also have a national database where you can enter your details: addres/phone number etc. By law it is prohibited (if you're on such a list) to send you addressed junkmail and/or contact you on your phone for telemarketing purposes.
It all works quite well I might say. I used to get about 34 kg of junk mail a year, now I get nothing .

 

[Star Wolf]

Re: Mailman doesn't deliver junk mail for seven years, put on probatio

In the Netherlands we use an opt-out system.
You can get a free sticker for your mailbox that says you don't wish to receive unadressed (junk)mail. We also have a national database where you can enter your details: addres/phone number etc. By law it is prohibited (if you're on such a list) to send you addressed junkmail and/or contact you on your phone for telemarketing purposes.
It all works quite well I might say. I used to get about 34 kg of junk mail a year, now I get nothing .

The US Congress, in their authority as the USPS's voting stock owner equivalent has not been willing to do that. While we do operate in the red and not in the black revenue from stamps is used to fund more then just universal access to postal service for the nation. The goose that lays the golden eggs for that service is the bulk advertiser. The logistics envolved means that although they pay a lower price we still make a profit.

A regular 1st class letter is picked up from mail boxes all over the nation and flown, or trucked locally without delay with too many layers of management looking over everyones shoulder to make sure it is not delayed. I make the example of the beginning of Tom Hanks Castaway when as a FedEx manager he sends the truck, a postal supervisor has the opposite prejudice he holds the truck to make sure the last letter gets on board.

Bulk advertising on the otherhand is not subject to such money wasting handeling. In many cases the advertiser, not the postal service delivers it to the carrier station in route order eliminating the needfor the army of clerks and machines to process it. Not to mention airline and trucking cost. The extra revnue makes it cost effective for me to walk to every mailbox everyday