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News Live-Action ‘Cowboy Bebop’ tv series in the works

Christopher said:
I have acknowledged that the fans reactions are taken into consideration by the decision makers, as one of the factors influencing their decisions. The point is that that is NOT the same thing as the fans dictating the decisions.
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Must have missed that, sorry.
And I agree, the fans don't Dictate them, usually thats left to the studios to dictate and screw up.. :razz:
 
In this case, I can't really see them changing Faye's costume since the one that people want is ridiculous, and there's no way they'd use it in a big budget production like this. Even if they did change it, it's still not going to be the costume from the anime and the fans who are pissed are still going to be pissed, so there's no point wasting their time by chaging it.
 
JD said:
In this case, I can't really see them changing Faye's costume since the one that people want is ridiculous, and there's no way they'd use it in a big budget production like this. Even if they did change it, it's still not going to be the costume from the anime and the fans who are pissed are still going to be pissed, so there's no point wasting their time by chaging it.
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Except as I keep pointing out, it basically is the anime costume, just a more realistic and practical version thereof. The top is essentially the same aside from behaving like actual cloth rather than cling film. The red jacket is there, but it's worn properly instead of constantly off the shoulders. And both costumes include shorts, sexy stockings, and boots, just different in color and cut. The only thing that's actually missing is the headband.
 
I'm guessing we might not see Ein or Ed, which is a pity. Using even a suitably trained animal (Ein) would likely slow up filming too much and a CGI version would be too expensive as well, require careful direction, and also add delay in post. A child actor (Ed) would age too rapidly over several seasons.
 
Asbo Zaprudder said:
I'm guessing we might not see Ein or Ed, which is a pity. Using even a suitably trained animal (Ein) would likely slow up filming too much and a CGI version would be too expensive as well, require careful direction, and also add delay in post. A child actor (Ed) would age too rapidly over several seasons.
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Ein is confirmed :)
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Asbo Zaprudder said:
I'm guessing we might not see Ein or Ed, which is a pity. Using even a suitably trained animal (Ein) would likely slow up filming too much and a CGI version would be too expensive as well, require careful direction, and also add delay in post. A child actor (Ed) would age too rapidly over several seasons.
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You saw Ein above, and they have announced that Ed will be included, though they haven't announced an actor yet. Given that Ed was introduced fairly late, it's plausible that she won't debut until season 2, or the end of season 1.


As for the feasibility of CGI animals, the TV adapation of the comic Y: The Last Man is using CGI for the protagonist's pet monkey, both for the safety of the lead actor and out of animal-rights considerations. The technology's gotten quite advanced now.
 
Christopher said:
You saw Ein above, and they have announced that Ed will be included, though they haven't announced an actor yet. Given that Ed was introduced fairly late, it's plausible that she won't debut until season 2, or the end of season 1.
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Yes, I missed that announcement. I'm glad my pessimism is misplaced.
 
valkyrie013 said:
@Christopher
Nope.
Fans do have a say. For an example, look at early screenings. How many a movie has been redone, or the 3rd act redone because of early screening viewers saying, It doesn't make sense, its bad, etc.
Look at Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker, they poo poo'd Last Jedi and the stuido done an about face and done some generic hash job for #3.

I'm not talking about what you mentioned like Airline Pilots, in that example, a closer thing would be a director having a bench of fans overlooking what he is doing and yelling at him to change it. That doesn't happen.
What usually happens is that people are hired, scripts made, and its filmed, by as you said profesionals. Thats all fine and dandy. Then it is presented to the people, Early screenings for example, changes are made based on input, or not, then it is released. It either does good or not based on if people like it. Now if its a one off, o well, its made, move on. If its a part of the series, then studios will look at what was unpopular, and strive to make a better next movie.
Simple thing of, you need an audience to make Money$$.

Another example, Movie X based off of Book X is coming soon! Fans of the book are excited. A synopsis comes out of what the story is going to be and who is being cast. Now this is where the peoples input come in. The fans can be happy, there following the book, casting good people, etc. Or Fans can be mad, There not following the book, the cast is crap. The studio at this point can make changes based off of the Fans input, Now if said fan input is just a bunch of basement dwelling twitter users, then they don't care and move on. If its more mainstream of alot of fans are mad, then changes may be made. The ENTIRE Reason for a studio to make a movie based on some other thing like a book is that there is already and audience Built IN, so there risk is less because those people "Should" pay to see it. If the studio makes to many changes from the book, the fans of the books Are Not going to see it.

Case in point, Ghost is the Shell. Yay a live action being made! Boo it has a white actress lead, Mega Boo there not really following the manga/anime story, Super Mega Boo at the first Trailer, Movie bombs.
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"Fans" have very little to do with changes being made following Test Screenings. Most of the people who get chosen to attend - or choose to attend - Test Screenings are either members of the media or members of the general public whom studios expect will give honest opinions because they aren't fans and therefore don't have preconceived notions about the property being test-screened.

There are and have been exceptions, but that's what they are: exceptions.

The impact that "fans" actually have on a given property has been grossly overinflated and exaggerated.
 
The test screenings my mom and I went to at our regular theater wre done blindly, we didn't know what we were going to see until the movie started and I don't remember the people in charge asking us what we liked, so unless they were unusual, you can't really say that people going them aren't fans since nobody knows anything beforehand.
In case anyone is wondering one was Shrek 2 and I don't remember what the other was. And the Shrek screening provided a perfect example of why listening to the public can be a bad idea. There were two teenage girls in front of us who were disappointed Shrek and Fiona turned back into Ogres at the end, which misses the entire theme of the movie, which was Shrek learning that he shouldn't change who he is.
 
I never understood the grousing against casting---that having been said
It's the voice of Beau Billingslea that I am going to miss the most.

You know something..DS9 was Bebop (with Sisko, Bashir and Kira...)
 
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Looks a lot more "Western" than I had imagined. EDIT: I know what I mean but not saying it right... Looks a little cheesier than I expected hopefully it's comes off better when we get actual footage.
 
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Oh dear god that was awful. It looks like they've shot most of the series on green screen sets as well.
 
...well they're clearly trying, but I'm still not feeling it. Trying to directly emulate the original's style in live action like this is VERY hard to pull off and requires some very talented people behind the camera so that it doesn't come off unintentionally goofy, and I'm just not seeing that here.
 
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