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"Kick Ass" Review Thread
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The film was as realistic as Nolan's Batman films. In other words, not at all.
Kick-Ass was never meant to be realistic and never set out to be realistic. Kick-Ass, like the book it was adapted from, is an intentional over-the-top comedy.
What? The movie never suggested such a thing. In actuality, her character wasn't developed that much at all, other than Dave liked her and that she worked as some sort of social worker.
It seems like you are applying traits to her that are not present in the movie.
Again, you are seeing things that are not there. If anything, the movie implied that they share a brother/sister type relationship.
Kick-Ass is now my favorite comic book movie by many orders of magnatude. It's great on every level. Pacing, acting, dialog, character chemistry...ect
Hit Girl going down the hallway is easily one of my favorite scenes of coreographed violence I have ever seen on screen.
Hit Girl going down the hallway is easily one of my favorite scenes of coreographed violence I have ever seen on screen.
Welcome back, Broccoli. 
If that's what they were going for they missed. The movie just wasn't funny.
I thought the movie was hysterical. Nic Cage as Adam West as Big Daddy was worth the price of admission alone.
That is subjective. I laughed my ass off and still do with each aditional viewing.
Welcome back Broc! As for "Kick-Ass" not being fun...uhhh...okay I laughed my ass off and so did the rest of the theater and my best friend who is not a comic book fan and normally is only exposed to them when I say I wanna see them. He got "Kick-Ass".
How was Katie a "skank" or "slutty"? Her character is developed very differently than her comic book version and the ending was altered for creative and dramatic purposes. It's not like she was boning guys left and right while she thought Dave was gay. I don't get that comment. How the hell do you see Mindy and Dave as "high school boyfriend/girlfriend"? That's way out there. It's actually implied that they're more akin to brother and sister or at the very least mentors to each other Dave is a mentor to her in terms of family and she is a mentor to him in terms of superheroing.
How was Katie a "skank" or "slutty"? Her character is developed very differently than her comic book version and the ending was altered for creative and dramatic purposes. It's not like she was boning guys left and right while she thought Dave was gay. I don't get that comment. How the hell do you see Mindy and Dave as "high school boyfriend/girlfriend"? That's way out there. It's actually implied that they're more akin to brother and sister or at the very least mentors to each other Dave is a mentor to her in terms of family and she is a mentor to him in terms of superheroing.
Nolan's Batman was explicitly, repeatedly said by many people to be realistic and was praised for its realism. If you read this thread, you read numerous complaints about how the jet pack ruined the realism! If a handful of people get that it's not realistic, great for you. But, if you agree it's not realistic, why are you bitching about me saying it's not realistic?
The whole opening pretty explicitly deconstructs costumed heroes as unrealistic, then brings in dead nerve endings (which includes the groin
) that don't affect the coordination and shows Hit-Girl with inhuman athletic ability.This directly contradicts the opening attitude of the movie. I don't see agree we are required to accept the movie violating its own initial premises without even daring to object. If you think the whole movie is over the top, aren't objections to a jet pack silly?
Thinking a male rape victim is necessarily gay, and recruiting him for gay best friend is pretty shabby. Whatever peculiar social work she does, thinking sex is part of counseling or rehab is pretty sleazy. If she was a professional she should have been disbarred. Making the biggest bad ass gangsta she could find her boyfriend tells you what you need to know about her. If you want to substitue shitty human being for skank, feel free. Ignoring boys, dumping her girl friends on the nerds when its convenient for her, getting all googly eyed over a famous person even though he's deceived her. The character's only redeeming trait is physical attractiveness.
No the movie explicitly said he would protect her like a big brother, then went out of the way to emphasize she didn't need it. What other kind of relationship is left? The adoptive father shouldn't want them together even in the hallways.
The bottom line is that an eleven year old saying cunt and killing people is great, but an eleven year old with (I hope) a young girl's romantic interest in an older boy is
. How very peculiar.
^ Are you serious?
^^^Given Hit-Girl's relationship with her father is much better than Kick Ass's with his, how could you seriously suggest he's mentoring her about "family?" Do you seriously expect us to forget Kick Ass and Hit-Girl are supposed to be quitting, so mentor as superhero is also out?
As for that awful girl friend, are you seriously suggesting good girls pick bad men for lovers because their intentions are pure?
You just don't like the bottom line.
As for that awful girl friend, are you seriously suggesting good girls pick bad men for lovers because their intentions are pure?
You just don't like the bottom line.
Sigh..okay you are serious. You are making leaps and insinuations that are way off but that's fine since it is your own opinion of the film. I just happened to see this quite differently than you obvious did.
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Admiral_Young, I'm not back.
Nolan's Batfilms are hardly realistic, unless you think cell phones can turn into sonar, or a microwave can magically turn water into gas, or Joker can have an endless supply of explosives and navigate anywhere in the city w/o being noticed, or any of the other gadgets Batman has in those films can actually happen.
The films were praised for their back-to-basics, serious approach to Batman.
The difference with Big Daddy/Hit-Girl is that they've been trained with a specific mission in mind. It doesn't break the suspension of disbelief. Also, they get their fair share of getting their asses kicked as well in the film.
The Jet-Pack, at least my thoughts on it, breaks the suspension of disbelief because jet-packs like that don't exist. Now, that is not necessarily a problem, but nothing else in the film suggested that other fictional devices such as that existed. It made the film feel "off".
It would be as if in a Nolan Bat-film, Batman is fighting the Joker and then, all of a sudden, Batman whips out a freeze gun. The audience would go "wait...what?"
Then again, others have argued in this thread that everything gets more and more crazier as the film goes on that by the time the Jet-Pack arrives, they bought into it. So, your mileage may vary.
People didn't think Dave was raped. They thought he was pimping himself out and a deal went bad.
Again, you are seeing things that are not there.
You are really reaching to make your misguided point have any realistic merit.
[/quote]The bottom line is that an eleven year old saying cunt and killing people is great, but an eleven year old with (I hope) a young girl's romantic interest in an older boy is. How very peculiar.[/QUOTE]
What romantic interest? Show me in the film where it states she has a romantic interest in Dave. (Spoiler: It's not there).
If you didn't like the movie, you didn't like the movie. That's fine. But you are attacking the movie with ridiculous claims that have little basis in reality.
Nolan's Batfilms are hardly realistic, unless you think cell phones can turn into sonar, or a microwave can magically turn water into gas, or Joker can have an endless supply of explosives and navigate anywhere in the city w/o being noticed, or any of the other gadgets Batman has in those films can actually happen.
The films were praised for their back-to-basics, serious approach to Batman.
Because you are making an erroneous claim that the film set out to be realistic, when that was clearly not the case.
The film never backs down from its claim. Remember the first time Dave goes out as Kick-Ass? He gets knifed and hit by a car. Remember what happened to guy at the very beginning? Jumped off the roof and slammed into a cab.The whole opening pretty explicitly deconstructs costumed heroes as unrealistic, then brings in dead nerve endings (which includes the groin
This directly contradicts the opening attitude of the movie. I don't see agree we are required to accept the movie violating its own initial premises without even daring to object.
The difference with Big Daddy/Hit-Girl is that they've been trained with a specific mission in mind. It doesn't break the suspension of disbelief. Also, they get their fair share of getting their asses kicked as well in the film.
The jet pack is silly, I'll agree with. However, that isn't a case of one thing being unrealistic; it is a case of breaking the suspension of disbelief. The film gives us this fictional universe that has its own set of rules. Things from Dave being able to afford his costume to Red Mist not being identifiable and Hit-Girl being able to do her stunts can be believed. They are either not dwelled upon or they are given some a good enough reason for audiences to buy into it.
The Jet-Pack, at least my thoughts on it, breaks the suspension of disbelief because jet-packs like that don't exist. Now, that is not necessarily a problem, but nothing else in the film suggested that other fictional devices such as that existed. It made the film feel "off".
It would be as if in a Nolan Bat-film, Batman is fighting the Joker and then, all of a sudden, Batman whips out a freeze gun. The audience would go "wait...what?"
Then again, others have argued in this thread that everything gets more and more crazier as the film goes on that by the time the Jet-Pack arrives, they bought into it. So, your mileage may vary.
Thinking a male rape victim is necessarily gay, and recruiting him for gay best friend is pretty shabby. [/quote]
People didn't think Dave was raped. They thought he was pimping himself out and a deal went bad.
What?! You are not making any sense. I'll look away from the fact you are misusing the word disbarred. She worked at a clinic (that was suggested to be a drug rehab clinic). While it is true that a counselor is prohibited from socially interacting with a patient for about seven years, she isn't a counselor. However, that is a moot point, as you make an erroneous claim that she had sex with patients. I'd like you to point out the specific line in the film that states that. (Spoiler: it's not there).
You mean when she said that she felt sorry for him when he told her about her background? And that she left him after he started to beat her? She didn't go out finding him. He was at the clinic and she felt sorry for him.
Again, you are seeing things that are not there.
Really? I guess your are right. Anytime Dave talked to her pre-Kick-Ass, he acted all awkward, socially inept, and aloof. Clearly, she should have tore her clothes off right then and there for him.
You mean when her friends were also the friends of the so-called nerds, right?
You must hate every superhero girlfriend ever.
Just because she didn't need protection, doesn't mean they don't have a brother/sister relationship. The thing is that, in all likelihood, he probably needs her protection. That's the joke.No the movie explicitly said he would protect her like a big brother, then went out of the way to emphasize she didn't need it. What other kind of relationship is left? The adoptive father shouldn't want them together even in the hallways.
You are really reaching to make your misguided point have any realistic merit.
[/quote]The bottom line is that an eleven year old saying cunt and killing people is great, but an eleven year old with (I hope) a young girl's romantic interest in an older boy is
. How very peculiar.[/QUOTE]What romantic interest? Show me in the film where it states she has a romantic interest in Dave. (Spoiler: It's not there).
If you didn't like the movie, you didn't like the movie. That's fine. But you are attacking the movie with ridiculous claims that have little basis in reality.
Great points again Broc.
That movie was so damn cool.
The movie sucked. Not one funny, memorable line, nothing original about the characters. Boring, stupid, post-modern crap.
Agreed.
I saw this the other week and was thinking of doing a thread but since this one is back I'll post my two cents...
One of the funniest, most outrages movie I've ever seen and I loved every single fucking minute
. The acting especially from Cage and the little chick was superb and surprised me coming from a film like this. The action, the dialogue everything was just perfect and I love the fact a sequel is a real possibility. Easily makes it into my top 20 movies of all time I had a great time watching it
One mroe thing WONDERFUL SOUNDTRACK
One of the funniest, most outrages movie I've ever seen and I loved every single fucking minute
. The acting especially from Cage and the little chick was superb and surprised me coming from a film like this. The action, the dialogue everything was just perfect and I love the fact a sequel is a real possibility. Easily makes it into my top 20 movies of all time I had a great time watching it One mroe thing WONDERFUL SOUNDTRACK
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I didn't see that except maybe in the very first scene with father and daughter. Then I saw a very tragic, very violent man who had corrupted his young daughter into a life of murder and pain. That doesn't strike me as funny. Nor do I think he played it funny. Moritz did occasionally show a kind of child-like enthusiasm for her weapons that edged on funny - but never quite got there.
Yeah, it kinda does. Hitgirl's much vaunted down-the-hall killing spree defied so many laws of physics it completely broke the suspension of disbelief. Now, I can (barely) go with emaciated Angelina Jolie kicking ass in Salt because there's an effort to show her hitting the weak spots of guys with knowledge of how to disable someone bigger, stronger and heavier than she is. But a 65-pound girl landing on a 200 pound guy - simply wouldn't work. I don't know crap about fighting and I wrestle my (bigger than Hitgirl) nephews who are trained in karate. I still win because I've got 100 pounds on them as well as far greater reach.
If they had played that for some sort of laughs, it might have fit the earlier tone of the movie - but they didn't. They played it for kewl bad-assedness which didn't work because she was a tiny little girl and the idea that she could do that kind of damage was ridiculous.
Nolan's Batman was explicitly, repeatedly said by many people to be realistic and was praised for its realism. If you read this thread, you read numerous complaints about how the jet pack ruined the realism! If a handful of people get that it's not realistic, great for you. But, if you agree it's not realistic, why are you bitching about me saying it's not realistic?
The whole opening pretty explicitly deconstructs costumed heroes as unrealistic, then brings in dead nerve endings (which includes the groin
This directly contradicts the opening attitude of the movie. I don't see agree we are required to accept the movie violating its own initial premises without even daring to object. If you think the whole movie is over the top, aren't objections to a jet pack silly?
Thinking a male rape victim is necessarily gay, and recruiting him for gay best friend is pretty shabby. Whatever peculiar social work she does, thinking sex is part of counseling or rehab is pretty sleazy. If she was a professional she should have been disbarred. Making the biggest bad ass gangsta she could find her boyfriend tells you what you need to know about her. If you want to substitue shitty human being for skank, feel free. Ignoring boys, dumping her girl friends on the nerds when its convenient for her, getting all googly eyed over a famous person even though he's deceived her. The character's only redeeming trait is physical attractiveness.
No the movie explicitly said he would protect her like a big brother, then went out of the way to emphasize she didn't need it. What other kind of relationship is left? The adoptive father shouldn't want them together even in the hallways.
The bottom line is that an eleven year old saying cunt and killing people is great, but an eleven year old with (I hope) a young girl's romantic interest in an older boy is
Dude? What the fuck?!
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