Remember all this stuff is pliable, they can change her origins a lot or a little.
Jessica Jones-- Marvel/Netflix
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Being Marvel I'm betting they take at least a good chunk of the comic origin, but with a few differences to fit what they're doing. I doubt they'll do a complete 180, since I think the comic Alias is kind of why Jessica Jones was a show they wanted to make in the first place. I'd probably expect them to stick as close as the generally do, which (like I said before) is to keep the general outline, but tweak some details to fit their universe better.
As long as the ooze still mutates the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, I'm okay.
Hmmmm.
I must have thought that Galactus was a timestamp putting her origin into perspective, but Marvel's Wiki seems to be suggesting that Jessica is a partially activated Herald of Galactus. She got a little bit of power "ambiantly", but none of the mental brainwashing programming.
Anyone can have Matt's sensory powers with the correct training. Every Ninja in the Hand has them (including Elektra?), but still somehow gets their ass kicked continuously. Murdock just took a shortcut.
Hmmmm.
I must have thought that Galactus was a timestamp putting her origin into perspective, but Marvel's Wiki seems to be suggesting that Jessica is a partially activated Herald of Galactus. She got a little bit of power "ambiantly", but none of the mental brainwashing programming.
Anyone can have Matt's sensory powers with the correct training. Every Ninja in the Hand has them (including Elektra?), but still somehow gets their ass kicked continuously. Murdock just took a shortcut.
But there are any number of third tier characters who can bleed from one series to the other creating the semblance of a shared landscape... Oh.
Stephen Strange's girlfriend, Night Nurse (Rosario Dawson), was already in Daredevil earlier this year, so am I supposed to think that that was a coincidence or impressive forward planning?
Stephen Strange's girlfriend, Night Nurse (Rosario Dawson), was already in Daredevil earlier this year, so am I supposed to think that that was a coincidence or impressive forward planning?
True, but it doesn't seem consistent with what they're doing with the Netflix shows. Of course, I could be wrong, not having seen any of them.
You haven't seen the shows that haven't aired yet?
Christcakes.
Get with it.
I want Wong to be a sex machine.
Young Hot Wong who goes out Dancing in clubs all night, shirtless, covered in glitter twirling glow stick numchucks like it's 1999.
Christcakes.
Get with it.
I want Wong to be a sex machine.
Young Hot Wong who goes out Dancing in clubs all night, shirtless, covered in glitter twirling glow stick numchucks like it's 1999.
Rosario Dawson was Clare Temple, while Strange's girlfriend is Linda Carter. Both Night Nurses, but different characters.
Clare Temple in comics was the wife/girlfriend of sequentially Black Goliath and Luke Cage that had nothing to do with Night Nurse. Clare and Linda were conflated into being a singular character for the cinematic universe maintaining the characteristics of both to act as a bridging character between serieses.
Rather, the Netflix series were going to use Night Nurse/Carter, but they learned that the movie division had plans for the character, so they use Claire Temple in the equivalent role on TV. So no, they haven't been conflated into a single character, because there are separate plans for both characters.
http://zap2it.com/2015/07/marvel-movies-daredevil-season-1-night-nurse-rosario-dawson/
I see what you're saying, and it's clear that I'm not right, but if the script was finished, and then they had to change the name, and all they did was change the name, and every other aspect to the character, as well as every completed line of dialogue that Rosario had already memorized remained the same other than the NUrse's name, isn't it still the same "person" they were forbidden from using in every quality but her name?
If everyone started calling you George, but absolutely nothing about you as a person, physically or spiritually had changed how different is George really from Christopher?
Would they get along, OR COULD THERE ONLY BE ONE?
If everyone started calling you George, but absolutely nothing about you as a person, physically or spiritually had changed how different is George really from Christopher?
Would they get along, OR COULD THERE ONLY BE ONE?
Weren't both Jane Foster and Betty Ross originally nurses in the comics? Now I'm not saying someone at Marvel had a nurse fetish or anything...
In reality it's probably just the reality of how few jobs there were for unmarried women in the 60's & 70's.
Betty was not a Nurse.
There was a thread a while back where we talked about how the acceptable age differences for lovers in the 1960s are creepy by today's standards.
In Hulk #1 when we met her, Ross towed her around like a pet. Betty did not have a job, and it is unclear what level of education she had received which would determine if she was roughly 17 or 23, having just completed high school or college respectively. Considering Betty's dependence on her father, until a husband was dispensed, and no self-reliance it's quite possible that she was there with Thunderbolt because she dropped out of school and couldn't look after herself at all.
Exactly what sort of security clearance would Betty have needed to get into that top secret weapons testing complex that she did not have?
That's just amazing.
How often do you think that "bring your daughter to work day" is respected by real world uranium enrichment facilities?
Well, whatever's aired, I haven't seen it. I've lost track.
Weren't both Jane Foster and Betty Ross originally nurses in the comics? Now I'm not saying someone at Marvel had a nurse fetish or anything...
In reality it's probably just the reality of how few jobs there were for unmarried women in the 60's & 70's.
Betty was not a Nurse.
There was a thread a while back where we talked about how the acceptable age differences for lovers in the 1960s are creepy by today's standards.
In Hulk #1 when we met her, Ross towed her around like a pet. Betty did not have a job, and it is unclear what level of education she had received which would determine if she was roughly 17 or 23, having just completed high school or college respectively. Considering Betty's dependence on her father, until a husband was dispensed, and no self-reliance it's quite possible that she was there with Thunderbolt because she dropped out of school and couldn't look after herself at all.
Exactly what sort of security clearance would Betty have needed to get into that top secret weapons testing complex that she did not have?
That's just amazing.
How often do you think that "bring your daughter to work day" is respected by real world uranium enrichment facilities?
Well if it's a military installation, you'd be surprised what you can get away with if you're the CO's daughter. Probably not *that*, but still...
Not sure where I got the idea she was a nurse then. I just have a vague memory of Hulk/Banner with a female character in a mid-20th century style nurse's outfit and assumed it was Betty. Jane was a nurse though, right?
Jane Foster was a Nurse, went back to school and became a doctor.
Clare Temple was a Nurse, went back to School and became a doctor.
Linda Carter was a nurse, went back to school and became a doctor.
Now, you may think that this sounds like female empowerment, that women can do anything, and maybe it is, but what it really sounds like to me is that Marvel is shitting on nurses as being something less-than or inferior, that all a nurse is is 1/10th of a doctor who should always feel miserable that they are not a doctor.
It's just a weird pattern to find.
Clare Temple was a Nurse, went back to School and became a doctor.
Linda Carter was a nurse, went back to school and became a doctor.
Now, you may think that this sounds like female empowerment, that women can do anything, and maybe it is, but what it really sounds like to me is that Marvel is shitting on nurses as being something less-than or inferior, that all a nurse is is 1/10th of a doctor who should always feel miserable that they are not a doctor.
It's just a weird pattern to find.
Nurse Chapel did the same thing.
Imagine going through four years of nursing school, practicing for a few years, then going through four years of medical school and four years of residency. That's assuming they can skip pre-med because of their nursing degree, but I've never known anyone who switched from nursing to doctoring. Easier to upgrade to an APRN or CNM.
Imagine going through four years of nursing school, practicing for a few years, then going through four years of medical school and four years of residency. That's assuming they can skip pre-med because of their nursing degree, but I've never known anyone who switched from nursing to doctoring. Easier to upgrade to an APRN or CNM.
Education, living costs and transportation is free in Star Trek.
Life expectancy is probably quintuple that of a black woman circa 1975 living in the projects too. Could you imagine putting up with a cavalcade of hissing golems like McCoy for the next 90 years?
Also if you believe John Byrne, there are learning drugs and sleep training where education is downloaded into you, so "school" lasts a fraction of the time too.
Christine's decision to upskill had no consequences or downside or risk.
Hmmm?
Clare divorced Bill Foster, and unless she was in a mood about how she "didn't need anything from a man", Clare had to have had walked away from that relationship with enough bank to go to medical school, or just invest and live off the returns for the rest of her life, or maybe even both.
Jane had two new revenue streams, first is the identity theft of Donald Blake. Seriously. Blake did not exist, Odin magicked "him" up out of nothing, and she had his social security number, bank details and unfettered access to his assets since she was secretary, assistant and nurse. As soon as that identity folded into Thor, she should have taken out 6 mortgages in his name and sold everything he owned and then taken out 40 credit cards in his name. It was going to waste if she didn't. And 2, there was a hundred issues abouts in the 70s where Sif body snatched Jane. Every time we met Sif it was actually Jane, so by the time she was finally released from that enslavement, it wouldn't be hard to guilt or sue Sif into financially recouping her for the prolonged use of her body for all that time, which any idiot Lawyer should be able to account into a mountain of Asgardian Gold.
Linda in her 70s comic was a nurse, 40 years later she's a doctor that answers to the name "Night Nurse" and we don't know what happened inbetween, even though it'd probably have been less than 5 years Marvel time. Although if she was looking after Super villains too in the beginning, it's not too hard to figure out how she paid for Medical school.
Life expectancy is probably quintuple that of a black woman circa 1975 living in the projects too. Could you imagine putting up with a cavalcade of hissing golems like McCoy for the next 90 years?
Also if you believe John Byrne, there are learning drugs and sleep training where education is downloaded into you, so "school" lasts a fraction of the time too.
Christine's decision to upskill had no consequences or downside or risk.
Hmmm?
Clare divorced Bill Foster, and unless she was in a mood about how she "didn't need anything from a man", Clare had to have had walked away from that relationship with enough bank to go to medical school, or just invest and live off the returns for the rest of her life, or maybe even both.
Jane had two new revenue streams, first is the identity theft of Donald Blake. Seriously. Blake did not exist, Odin magicked "him" up out of nothing, and she had his social security number, bank details and unfettered access to his assets since she was secretary, assistant and nurse. As soon as that identity folded into Thor, she should have taken out 6 mortgages in his name and sold everything he owned and then taken out 40 credit cards in his name. It was going to waste if she didn't. And 2, there was a hundred issues abouts in the 70s where Sif body snatched Jane. Every time we met Sif it was actually Jane, so by the time she was finally released from that enslavement, it wouldn't be hard to guilt or sue Sif into financially recouping her for the prolonged use of her body for all that time, which any idiot Lawyer should be able to account into a mountain of Asgardian Gold.
Linda in her 70s comic was a nurse, 40 years later she's a doctor that answers to the name "Night Nurse" and we don't know what happened inbetween, even though it'd probably have been less than 5 years Marvel time. Although if she was looking after Super villains too in the beginning, it's not too hard to figure out how she paid for Medical school.
The episode titles have apparently leaked. Ep.12's title is my favorite.
I like how even though the dropped the "AKA" from the show's title, all of the episode titles still have it.
I like how even though the dropped the "AKA" from the show's title, all of the episode titles still have it.
