It worked with Nog… that was the best thing that they could have done for the character. Too bad they couldn’t have done something similar for Jake the Sisco. But Jake the Cisco had his moments that were pretty good sometimes. Especially when he goes with Dr. Bashir and the Klingons attack and he has to run away, there wasn’t really much he could have done. And he comes to grips with it, and he writes about it.
augh! I forgot that in The Raven Tuvix was with 7! So he couldn’t have swiped The Raven’s DB…
I think the thing that we forget, because we had just gone through seven seasons each of two syndicated shows, TNG and DS9…
(Danger- TANGENT!!)
heh that reminds me of an ad that channel 6 in San Diego ran when they were still independent, they used to play Babylon five, the next generation, and then deep space nine on Saturday nights… starting at 5pm…
“B sub 5, TN to the G, DS to the 9th” they presented it as a formula, and then they showed Londo Mallari yelling “DO YOU GET IT!?”, anybody from San Diego remember that? That just popped into my FRON, sorry…
anyway, to get back to the nonsense/subject at hand, we had just witnessed two very successful syndicated television shows, that had practically no interference whatsoever from networks. In fact, if we consider William Shatner’s movie “chaos on the bridge“, the only problem they had with next generation in S1 was the writer-go-round caused by Gene.
But Voyager was the first true network Trek since TOS and therefore UPN probably had their bean counters and pencil pushers interfering with the show from day one… nevertheless, they did a good job of circumventing those people, but ultimately any really bad decisions came from the Network.
It’s too bad that Ronald D Moore was only involved in two episodes, The episodes that he wrote, it was like he was there all along. He understood every character and every personality trait. I loved his barge of the dead episode, that made me like bologna, er, Bellana finally.
but when we compare Voyager to the other two shows. that is the big difference.
And enterprise really suffered because of that. Braga in his heart would have rather made a show about some new ship instead of going back in time 200 years… and so the enterprise ends up with a doctor that is way more advanced than Beverly crusher or Dr. Pulaski! So we kind of have to insert Denobulans into cannon, I sure wish they would have been around in a couple of episodes of TOS…
But then, again, it all goes back to suspension of disbelief. I hated enterprise when it started I stopped watching after the second season.
Until finally, I watched the third season and it was not so bad. It was a whole story arc, but it also had some independent episodes.
But in the fourth season, they had that “Vulcans in pon farr” thing, they could have at least found an actress they could have mimicked Celia Lovski, but instead we got the replacement “golden hind“ from Hercujerk. That was one episode where suspension of disbelief for me at least didn’t work at all. But hey, Archer gets to channel Serak, and he kicked butt with those weapons, that Spock used to slice open Kirk…
augh! I forgot that in The Raven Tuvix was with 7! So he couldn’t have swiped The Raven’s DB…
I think the thing that we forget, because we had just gone through seven seasons each of two syndicated shows, TNG and DS9…
(Danger- TANGENT!!)
heh that reminds me of an ad that channel 6 in San Diego ran when they were still independent, they used to play Babylon five, the next generation, and then deep space nine on Saturday nights… starting at 5pm…
“B sub 5, TN to the G, DS to the 9th” they presented it as a formula, and then they showed Londo Mallari yelling “DO YOU GET IT!?”, anybody from San Diego remember that? That just popped into my FRON, sorry…
anyway, to get back to the nonsense/subject at hand, we had just witnessed two very successful syndicated television shows, that had practically no interference whatsoever from networks. In fact, if we consider William Shatner’s movie “chaos on the bridge“, the only problem they had with next generation in S1 was the writer-go-round caused by Gene.
But Voyager was the first true network Trek since TOS and therefore UPN probably had their bean counters and pencil pushers interfering with the show from day one… nevertheless, they did a good job of circumventing those people, but ultimately any really bad decisions came from the Network.
It’s too bad that Ronald D Moore was only involved in two episodes, The episodes that he wrote, it was like he was there all along. He understood every character and every personality trait. I loved his barge of the dead episode, that made me like bologna, er, Bellana finally.
but when we compare Voyager to the other two shows. that is the big difference.
And enterprise really suffered because of that. Braga in his heart would have rather made a show about some new ship instead of going back in time 200 years… and so the enterprise ends up with a doctor that is way more advanced than Beverly crusher or Dr. Pulaski! So we kind of have to insert Denobulans into cannon, I sure wish they would have been around in a couple of episodes of TOS…
But then, again, it all goes back to suspension of disbelief. I hated enterprise when it started I stopped watching after the second season.
Until finally, I watched the third season and it was not so bad. It was a whole story arc, but it also had some independent episodes.
But in the fourth season, they had that “Vulcans in pon farr” thing, they could have at least found an actress they could have mimicked Celia Lovski, but instead we got the replacement “golden hind“ from Hercujerk. That was one episode where suspension of disbelief for me at least didn’t work at all. But hey, Archer gets to channel Serak, and he kicked butt with those weapons, that Spock used to slice open Kirk…
