Considering Leia being put into a bikini, chained to a horny slug, the "kiss" and the implications of what he may have done to her.
It's actually astonishing that the Jabba/Leia scenes in ROTJ didn't cause a scandal, back in 1983
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Most people seemed to have been able to tell the difference between fiction and reality back then.
Jabba at least gives her something to wear. Xizor would probably have her naked.
There was nothing remotely novel or shocking about that kind of thing in 1983. The Leia/Jabba scene was basically an homage to a scene depicted countless times on the covers of vintage pulp sci-fi magazines from the '30s through the '50s, slavering space monsters drooling over scantily clad women in chains. After all, Star Wars never contained a single original idea; the whole thing is a hodgepodge of homages to the media images George Lucas grew up with. There wasn't anything in it that hadn't been seen before, except for its innovations in visual effects technology.
The implied or overt threat of sexual assault as a source of peril for women has been a constant in fiction going back centuries, and was often not taken very seriously by the men writing the stories -- e.g. at the end of Star Trek: "The Enemy Within," where Spock actually teases Yeoman Rand about the evil Kirk's earlier rape attempt on her. And in the 1980s, there were plenty of far more overt depictions of rape in the movies than the vague implications in the Jabba scene.
That's true. But it's especially interesting that ROTJ was actually the movie, responsible for the notion coming up that the franchise was meant to be for kids.
Something GL himself pretended, when TPM was released.
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I don't know if he pretended so much as he was just referencing that much of where Star Wars came from was the serial films that Lucas had grown up with as a kid.
Here's an article about this from 2017. His opinion apparently hasn't changed since then.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/13/15288998/george-lucas-star-wars-celebration
Damn that comment section. And people wonder why Lucas sold the company and won't come back in any great force with Star Wars.
Was slave Leia considered too controversial to be given an action figure during the original Kenner releases?
Because people were weren't offended by the mere showing a cute woman in anything other than a Burka back then..
And by the amount of women that cosplay slave Leia .. A good amount of women don't care about today's perpetually offended behaviour either.
And by the amount of women that cosplay slave Leia .. A good amount of women don't care about today's perpetually offended behaviour either.
Wow. Seriously? I was eight years old when the original film was released, and it always staggers me that people today have bought into this fantasy that Star Wars was ever not meant for kids. I was exactly in the film's target audience -- hell, my father wouldn't have let me see the movie at that age if it wasn't kid-friendly. I mean, the movies literally tell you up front that they're a fairy tale: "A long time ago in a galaxy [land] far, far away." Of course they're for kids. They always have been. The success and popularity of the franchise always owed at least as much to the toy line as to the movies themselves -- that's why we know so much about the names and backgrounds of bit characters like Boba Fett and the entire population of the Mos Eisley cantina, because the toys gave them names and biographies that the movies didn't.
I mean, really, look at the PG and R-rated movies in the '70s and '80s. Look at something like Logan's Run for comparison. If Star Wars hadn't been intended for kids, then Leia would've been stripped down to something skimpy -- or nothing at all -- a lot sooner than the third movie. Slave Leia happened because the studio didn't feel the films were doing enough to appeal to teenage or adult males.
I don't recall hearing any controversy about it when the film first came out. Like I said, it was pretty standard for movies of the day to put women in skimpy outfits -- look at De Laurentiis's Flash Gordon from 1980, for instance, or any James Bond movie. And the slave girl/harem girl image was a routine bit of pop culture, a standard Orientalist trope for showing the depravity of villains.
These days, we look back on Slave Leia and see it as undermining Leia by sexualizing and objectifying her. But in that time, sexualizing and objectifying women was the default, and Leia still came out as damn impressive for a heroine in that era for single-handedly rescuing herself and turning the tables on her oppressor. So no, it wasn't controversial, as far as I was aware. (Although admittedly I was 14-5 at the time and only really cared about how incredible Carrie Fisher looked in the outfit.)
Still a stupid outfit.
It's almost like we were supposed to think Jabba was a bad guy.
Just wait until the Book of Jabba the Hutt comes out.
Not the best evidence, since cosplay outfits are kind of like Halloween costumes. I've seen cosplayers dressed as sexy versions of Strawberry Shortcake and My Little Pony characters, but nobody's going to assume those women are champing for that kind depiction in the official product.
Anyway, from what I've seen, most of the slave outfit criticism is mainly about the connotations of sexual slavery, not the skimpiness in and of itself.
You didn't see the plethora of female workout videos that were being put out at the time that no one really batted an eye at did you?
1. I think its more likely that Jabba had a cloaca, rather than penis.
2. There were 3 puppeteers inside Jabba, so that constitutes a gang bang.
3. In legends of the bounty hunters, Jabba gave Leia to Bobba Fett for night. He guarded her while she had a good night's sleep.
4. Leia was probably wearing the dead twilik Oola's, who was eaten by the rancor, clothes. Leia probably got her entire wardrobe and dressing room. Leia may have picked that out fit, because it's the least offensive thing on the wrack.
5. Slavery is legal, so there are rules about what you can do to your slave, and paperwork to designate the value, pedigree and providence of that slave. Even though Leia was a thief, caught red handed, no legal entity recorded that criminal act and no authority processed her certificate of enslavement. If some one from the mayor's office showed up, did a head count and checked the slaves chain codes, Jabba would be in trouble, even if Leia wasn't he Empire's most wanted.
6. If Jabba raped Leia, Darth Vader, after he found out, but before he died, if Jabba was still alive, would have shot him with the Death Star.
7. If Leia enjoyed choking out Jabba to death, almost sexually, does that mean that she raped him?
8. If leia couldn't or wouldn't dance, she was food for the rancor. She had probably hours left until she was converted into rancour scat.
9. Lando was there the whole time. He had to calculate in his head, what level of discomfort, humiliation and abuse was he going to let his friend suffer through, before he stepped in and started shooting people. It's likely she talked to Lando and she told him not to rescue her, because Luke's plan is just awesome. Note sarcasm.
10. What if Leia was pregnant with Jabba the Hutt's baby? Was Kylo Renn really Ben the Hutt?
2. There were 3 puppeteers inside Jabba, so that constitutes a gang bang.
3. In legends of the bounty hunters, Jabba gave Leia to Bobba Fett for night. He guarded her while she had a good night's sleep.
4. Leia was probably wearing the dead twilik Oola's, who was eaten by the rancor, clothes. Leia probably got her entire wardrobe and dressing room. Leia may have picked that out fit, because it's the least offensive thing on the wrack.
5. Slavery is legal, so there are rules about what you can do to your slave, and paperwork to designate the value, pedigree and providence of that slave. Even though Leia was a thief, caught red handed, no legal entity recorded that criminal act and no authority processed her certificate of enslavement. If some one from the mayor's office showed up, did a head count and checked the slaves chain codes, Jabba would be in trouble, even if Leia wasn't he Empire's most wanted.
6. If Jabba raped Leia, Darth Vader, after he found out, but before he died, if Jabba was still alive, would have shot him with the Death Star.
7. If Leia enjoyed choking out Jabba to death, almost sexually, does that mean that she raped him?
8. If leia couldn't or wouldn't dance, she was food for the rancor. She had probably hours left until she was converted into rancour scat.
9. Lando was there the whole time. He had to calculate in his head, what level of discomfort, humiliation and abuse was he going to let his friend suffer through, before he stepped in and started shooting people. It's likely she talked to Lando and she told him not to rescue her, because Luke's plan is just awesome. Note sarcasm.
10. What if Leia was pregnant with Jabba the Hutt's baby? Was Kylo Renn really Ben the Hutt?
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