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I don't really understand "cultural appropriation"

Is 2017's Ghost in the Shell cultural appropration?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • No

    Votes: 16 72.7%

  • Total voters
    22
Vikings didn't have dreadlocks, they had plaits.

dread-lock \'dred-,lak\ n (I960) 1 : a narrow ropelike strand of hair formed by matting or braiding.

Wikipedia said:
While leaving hair to its own devices – foregoing brushing, combing or cutting the hair, also known as the "neglect" technique and "free forming" – will generally result in tangles and mats, the formation of evenly sized dreadlocks takes planning and maintenance.

So yeah, they are ALL dreads.
 
Since every culture has done it most likely in all forms from the braided style to the "neglect" style, giving anybody shit for it seems pretty shit-headed.
 
I can't say I'm familiar with Iron Fist to comment, but a good example of something that I think is problematic is The Last Samurai. Here is a film where our white male American military star dresses up as a Samurai, learns their ways in a montage, and ends up being the spokesperson and champion for all the Samurai, and seemingly their only survivor (the titular last Samurai). To me this is an example of a narrative where we actually watch the appropriation unfold on screen - the one white person who has 'discovered' some outside culture which other white people are suppressing has, in the space of a single film, completely appropriated it as their own, and very literally excluded the original owners, to the point that all the actual Samurai are dead. Only the white American man who learned this stuff five minutes ago is Samurai enough to survive! He is the most Samurai of all the Samurai! If ever there was a metaphor for colonial appropriation of culture, it is that film. I'd almost love to think that was the point, and maybe it was, but I don't detect the fragrance of irony.
The Tom Cruise character wasn't the titular "Last Samurai", Ken Watanabe's character was. Cruise was the PoV character for the audience. He was there to give us a point of view into a culture that is alien to the movie's audience. The story is about his recovery from PTSD and Alcoholism to embrace a meaningful cause, not about him becoming a Samurai. While he develops sympathy for them and respect for their culture, he doesn't go back to America wearing a Kabuto and wielding a Katana calling himself a Samurai. As I recall he goes back to the village and marries the woman whose husband he killed (problematic in itself) and vanishes from history. That isn't appropriation. It is pandering to a white audience for sure, and romanticizing a historical culture that was far from ideal, but not appropriation.
 
E.G Back in the day black music was sanitised by a white music industry in the form of Elvis Presley, did anyone at the time tell the public that 'Hound dog' was a song first performed by a black entertainer? I bet they did not.

Actually, Elvis always openly acknowledged the huge influence of gospel and rhythm and blues on his music. For that, the more prejudiced elements of white Middle America did not like him. And while his performance and music style may be considered tame by today's standards, they were definitely not seen as "sanitized" at the time. Rather, conservative white adults were quite scandalized when he came on the popular scene, as his movements were considered overly sexualized and aggressive.

"Good" boys and girls were encouraged to listen to performers with more innocent personas and mild music instead, such as Ricky Nelson or the Everly Brothers. Now that's some truly tame and sanitized stuff.

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The Jesus thing always got me having grown up in that kind of setting with family till I left it. He was born a Jew but looked like a regular white dude and it just bugged me that pictures and paintings had this image of him when clearly if he were real he'd be dark skinned and probably have a big beard.
 
The Jesus thing always got me having grown up in that kind of setting with family till I left it. He was born a Jew but looked like a regular white dude and it just bugged me that pictures and paintings had this image of him when clearly if he were real he'd be dark skinned and probably have a big beard.
Although I did already write a long post about how modern post colonial terminology doesn't really apply in antiquity, and I think that remains true, there is a sense, now I think about your post, in which the medieval Roman Catholic Christian imagery, iconography and culture is itself a massive cultural appropriation from Jewish messianic, apocalyptic zealots. They took one of many examples from the time of messianic cult figures and adapted him as their own, erasing his competition, changing the story, the appearance of the characters and the interpretations of the events to suit their own norms and declaring ownership of the culture that went with it. Suddenly we have a perfectly groomed lily white Jesus with nails through his palms, Roman oppressors presented at least neutrally if not actively positively, while the Jewish characters who retain their cultural identity and appearance are consistently responsible for everything bad that happens, and festivals, creeds and customs which draw heavily not on Jewish Law but on the pagan practices of the existing dominant culture. Then in the true style of their much later imperialist descendants, crushed the culture from which they lifted their acquisition, and scattered its descendants around the world.
 
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Although I did already write a long post about how modern post colonial terminology doesn't really apply in antiquity, and I think that remains true, there is a sense, now I think about your post, in which the medieval Roman Catholic Christian imagery, iconography and culture is itself a massive cultural appropriation from Jewish messianic, apocalyptic zealots. They took one of many examples from the time of messianic cult figures and adapted him as their own, erasing his competition, changing the story, the appearance of the characters and the interpretations of the events to suit their own norms and declaring ownership of the culture that went with it. Suddenly we have a perfectly groomed lily white Jesus with nails through his palms, Roman oppressors presented at least neutrally if not actively positively, while the Jewish characters who retain their cultural identity and appearance are consistently responsible for everything bad that happens, and festivals, creeds and customs which draw heavily not on Jewish Law but on the pagan practices of the existing dominant culture. Then in the true style of their much later imperialist descendants, crushed the culture from which they lifted their acquisition, and scattered its descendants around the world.
You're making the peaceful Christian message sound like Constantine had the thing cobbled together to justify Imperial crackdown on the variegated societies in the Roman Empire to a single version of religious, cultural and political authority?
 
"Good" boys and girls were encouraged to listen to performers with more innocent personas and mild music instead, such as Ricky Nelson or the Everly Brothers. Now that's some truly tame and sanitized stuff.
Pat Boone makes the Everlys and Ricky Nelson look like raving maniacs. ;)
The Jesus thing always got me having grown up in that kind of setting with family till I left it. He was born a Jew but looked like a regular white dude and it just bugged me that pictures and paintings had this image of him when clearly if he were real he'd be dark skinned and probably have a big beard.
Jesus adapts to his audience. In Africa, Eastern Europe and Asia he was often drawn to look like the people who live there. It's only through the dominance of Western Europe that "White Jesus" has become the "default" version.
 
Pat Boone makes the Everlys and Ricky Nelson look like raving maniacs. ;)
This. The Everlys and Ricky Nelson are among the more solid white artists to be found in the early '60s scene between '50s rock & roll and the British Invasion. It's the likes of Pat Boone, Fabian, and Frankie Avalon who were the manufactured, parent-friendly, sanitized teen idols. Boone in particular was infamous for singing cleaned-up covers of R&B songs when R&R was breaking out as a phenomenon in the '50s.
 
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