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How did Arcturus learn about Voyager?

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Rewatched Hope and Fear. Good episode.

But how Arturis knew Janeway made the agreement with the Borg?

How did he even know the Borg was fighting Species 8472? it's not like any of them had relations, ambassadors, news services, etc to another space powers.

And Janeway and co probably didnt tell everyone every detail of their trip.

Arturis must have watched Scorpion somehow.
 
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I would say that Arturis' revenge plan strains credibility, but that would be putting it mildly.
 
Arcturis was informed by Arturis.

Arturis knew because people in the Delta quadrant seemed to know a great deal about Voyager. On more than one occasion, a new species that Voyager encountered would already be aware of them (often hearing very bad things) and you do wonder why so much of it was negative.

It stands to reason that his people had been surreptitiously monitoring events unfold between the Borg and Species 8472.
 
Well, Arturis had that thing with languages. All he'd need is a chance to chat with the Borg, and supposedly the Borg were providing lamentably many such opportunities to his species.

Janeway might stay mum about what she did, but the Borg don't understand such things. Quite to the contrary, they go on and on about things the other party doesn't really want to hear. Or at least Locutus and the Queen always did. Learning about the "Scorpion" pact wouldn't be too difficult if it came from the horse's mouth. And supposedly, Arturis' folk had enough tech to resist the Borg, to escape from their clutches, until the final assault - so getting the info and running should have been possible.

Beyond that... Arturis had a plan? What he had was a pretty nifty ship, and again that thing with languages. What he appeared to lack was big guns or other direct means of making Janeway suffer or die. And what he did didn't exactly call for much preplanning. After stumbling onto Neelix, just park the ship, go to our heroes, ad-lib the mumbo-jumbo about "translating" the message (any other excuse to get the heroes to the parking spot would work, too), and just before arrival, tell the ship to assume a shape matching the chosen subterfuge. No plan needed.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Ha ha, good question!

Let's see, Arturis was from an advanced race. Maybe they had deep space telemetry that picked up the Borg/8472/Voyager activity. Since his people (Species 116) were experts at pattern analysis, they could have inferred the whole story. You see a Borg cube towing a Federation starship - what do you make of it? A compromise being reached?

Or maybe he watched Mornings With Neelix. :p
 
I get the notion from watching Voyager that the Delta Quadrant is sort of a gossipy place, so word gets around. I would imagine that news of the Voyager/Borg/Species Numbers fight would have gotten around anyway, but especially in Quadrant TMZ.
 
I never thought about it, but I figure Arturus could just tap Borg comms for information and learn all he wants. He could also tap the galactic rumor mill. I bet Voyager's crew wouldn't even bother keeping it secret that they helped the Borg.
Arcturis was informed by Arturis.
Arturis knew because people in the Delta quadrant seemed to know a great deal about Voyager. On more than one occasion, a new species that Voyager encountered would already be aware of them (often hearing very bad things) and you do wonder why so much of it was negative.
The Kazon were spreading rumors. Voyager doesn't seem to escape those rumors until they pass the first expanse a couple seasons in. But, Voyager still generates rumors on its own, I think, and they still are a mixed bag, like that episode where the Doctor's backup ends up no an alien world in the future and they think Voyage was a mercenary warship. Or, the other episode with the fake Delta Flier masquerading as an envoy for Voyager, in order to rip people off by bringing them into a fake Federation which charges membership fees. I blame Janeway. :P
 
I suppose the rumors were spread the same way rumors spread on earth when wooden sailing ships ruled the waves. Some sailor could be down in the local tavern of some coastal town spouting off rumors about some ruthless pirate and his crew because his friend knew someone who was there. Someone else would chime in with what he knew about it and then another and another...the story gets taken to another coastal town and is spread to other ships....and of course only the most sensational parts of the story gets repeated.

Before too long a legend is born.
 
Arturis's ship could get to the Alpha Quadrant in 3 months. I'm sure he had no problem shadowing Voyager for some time.

How he found out? Many ways. The crew finds itself all too happy to share details at many stops (Prime Factors in Season 1, Live Long and Prosper Season 6), from the Doctor blathering on about his 29th Century emitter which was later used against him to countless other details.

I'm sure 7 herself or a crewmember talked about the ex-Borg often enough, particularly how they freed her and the details. Also how far back they started out and how they got 10K light years through Borg space. Don't forget Species 8472 was also still lingering about for a while. Etcetera.

Arturis finding out is no mystery to me.

OTOH, I don't know why he didn't pose as a friendly with a fast ship and have a better plan. The Enterprise was just sent 7k lightyear into a Borg hotspot. No need to go backward. Just drive Voyager forward into trouble.

But whatever.
 
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