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Hope still exists for Prodigy from Comic Con

If they were following the same rules that apply to the shows that HBO Max cancels for tax write-offs, than, yes, it would have to be stricken from canon with no one allowed to mention it again in another show or movie otherwise the tax write-off would become null and void. Which is where the concern was coming from regarding Prodigy's canonical status.

Thankfully, it appears they are not following those rules.

None of the other four shows was referencing Prodigy anyway, so it’s kind of a moot point.
 
None of the other four shows was referencing Prodigy anyway, so it’s kind of a moot point.

Would it matter?
Shows don't need to reference each other to be considered part of canon. Besides, we've only had PRO for 1 season... most other Trek shows had longer than that before other shows referenced them.
Even LD didn't reference SNW until it was in later half of S2.

In effect, I don't think we had time for PRO to be references (although I suppose PIC S3 could have tied ending of PRO with why the ENT-E wasn't available - plenty of Sovereigns were in that battle, and the ENT could have easily been one of them).
 
Star trek writers only rarely let themselves be tied by canon anyway; they use what they want and ignore or contradict the rest as needed/wanted. Gorn are a good example: SNW turned them into "Aliens" from another franchise, but TOS also remains canon. How often have the klingons been redesigned? Jadzia's Trill is not a tng Trill, and so on.

I doubt there is a much inclination anyway to use Prodigy properties in live action. The SNW guys would be the exception, but they have already done a crossover and probably aren't going to repeat that.


We don't know that, they could still opt for the tax break if they don't get a relatively decent offer from another streamer. The good sales of physical media boxes and other related merchandise makes that less likely, but if netflix and co don't bite, it may still be over.

It would have remained canon, however. Nor would it be functionally deleted, those bluray discs (and the books and game) don't cease to exist (and neither should digital purchases, allthough that may depend on the platform and how much those are willing to rip off their customers).

I for one blame all the time travel & Multiverse incursions for the paradoxes and anchronism, it's turn casualty into Swiss Cheese.
 
My theory on the tax write off... Yes, Paramount+ and CBS Studios are both owned by Paramount Global, formerly ViacomCBS. But it is likely Paramount+ (the commissioner and intended distributer) is taking the write off, not CBS Studios (the producer). It would be like a TV network canceling a show and taking a write off, irrespective of if a sister company or outside company produced the actual content.

Wheras BATGIRL was scrapped by its producing company. And removed shows already produced for HBO and HBO Max have surfaced elsewhere.

Gotta love Hollywood + Billionaire accounting...
 
A streamer removing a show from its platform is not a tax write off. Those other shows Max pulled that you're seeing in other services were licensed to other streamers as they were worth more in licensing than they were as write offs. They were not written off. Westworld, as an example, was never being written off. But nobody was going to subscribe to Max to watch it, and no one was keeping their Max subscriptions to watch it, but it had value being licensed to Amazon. It was worth more as a product sold to another streamer than it was as a product retained on Max. It wasn't written off, it was just pulled and sold.

Vs Batgirl etc which were written off and so can never see the light of day again.

Paramount was investigating if they could make more money licensing Prodigy than writing it off. If they could, they would sell it. If they couldn't, they'd write it off. The decision wasn't made it was up in the air. If it was written off, it's gone. It wouldn't resurface on another streamer. It resurfaces in another streamer if they license it out, instead of writing it off.

Luckily, right now, it looks like it has more value being released than written off. If it was written off you were never going to see it on another service. It would be gone.
 
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Paramount was investigating if they could make more money licensing Prodigy than writing it off. If they could, they would sell it. If they couldn't, they'd write it off. The decision wasn't made it was up in the air. If it was written off, it's gone. It wouldn't resurface on another streamer. It resurfaces in another streamer if they license it out, instead of writing it off.

Luckily, right now, it looks like it has more value being released than written off. If it was written off you were never going to see it on another service. It would be gone.
Even if no other streamer bites, they could still opt for a release on disc only or to reinstate it on their own streaming platform. The continuing strikes of writers and actors may make that latter option somewhat less unlikely, as the value of Prodigy could be higher than before if the finished but unreleased S2 would be about the only new Star Trek content they can offer (even new Lower Decks, past S4, would be affected by the actors' strike).

But selling to Netflix or Amazon, which have a larger build in audience (especially the former), would probably be better for CBS. The Star Trek brand would still be marketed among a young audience, probably more so than on P+ itself as that service apparently isn't terribly appealing for children/family viewing.

Under the given circumstances, it would seem a no brainer to eventually have Prodigy S2 turn up in some form, but maybe I underestimate just how financially beneficial such a tax write off can be (vs the profits they could undoubtedly make by releasing S2 in some way).
 
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I'll believe it when I see it. I appreciate Van Critters talking up the show, but he works for Paramount and it seems like he didn't fight for it. It's really hard to believe anything anyone says at Paramount these days, especially when they sold their service as the home for all the trek series and episodes.
 
Van Citters is in charge of licensing for the Trek franchise, he has no influence on whether a show is cancelled or renewed or whatever. Accusing him of "not fighting for it" is a gross misunderstanding of his job and its remit.

Well, I don’t understand his job. I just know he works for paramount and he’s a lot closer than you or I. Like I said, I hope it happens but I’ll believe it when I see it.
 
I was hoping this discussion was a little more about hope than yet another argument about what counts as canon. I guess it's just what you have to accept when you love a media franchise as long and storied as Star Trek.
 
The show should definitely go beyond 2 or 3 seasons.
It certainly has merit since the Hageman brothers seem to know what they're doing (unlike some other Trek series).
 
https://trekmovie.com/2023/08/18/st...ason-2-legacy-connections-and-season-3-hopes/

The producers are 99 percent confident and still are hoping for s season 3 and movie.

I am often a pessimist, but I am optimistic this will be good for the show. It will get new viewers who might not have P+.

I loved the show. I will still argue that season 1 of Prodigy is the best season 1 of any Trek series.

Kevin Hageman: "My master hope, I want the show picked up. I want a season 3. I want Season 3 to set up an animated film series. Because why not? I think Star Trek needs to have an epic animated film series that have a new adventure every couple of years that the whole family can go see. I mean, it’s going be much easier to make that than some of these live action films that are much, much more expensive. Ours is on a budget."

Unfortunately this is just wishful thinking on Hageman's part, just like the idea for a Star Trek: Legacy series was wishful thinking on Matalas's part. Don't get me wrong; I'd love for Prodigy to have ten seasons and ten movies. I just don't see this as likely.
 
https://trekmovie.com/2023/08/18/st...ason-2-legacy-connections-and-season-3-hopes/

The producers are 99 percent confident and still are hoping for s season 3 and movie.

I am often a pessimist, but I am optimistic this will be good for the show. It will get new viewers who might not have P+.
The Hagemans (in the link given above) also support a campaign for fundraising for a skywriting campaign, to target HQ's of large streamers. I'm not sure that would be necessary if they are really 99% certain, but maybe the relatively certainty concerns the likelihood of season 2 seeing the light of day (through some Paramount subsidiary that is not P+, or even via direct-to-disc and/or direct-to-digital sales if nothing else) rather than being picked up by a major streamer such as Netflix or Amazon.
 
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