Get Taylor Swift A Booty

[Taylirious]

https://www.yahoo.com/style/taylor-swift-looks-so-much-like-a-supermodel-that-102535446423.html

Even Taylor Swift Isn't Safe From Body Shaming

Taylor Swift looks so much like a supermodel that she and her BFF, actual supermodel Karlie Kloss, are often indistinguishable.

The fact that she seems to have zero-percent body fat, and legs that could be a mannequin’s, couldn’t save her from being body shamed by some guy who happened to have — and felt he should share — an opinion about her looks.

Diplo, a DJ and Katy Perry’s boyfriend, tweeted, “someone should make a kickstarter to get taylor swift a booty.”

He then retweeted a bunch of fan responses including “@diplo I started a petition on http://whitehouse.gov to include it on the federal budget,” and “@diplo Help Me In Supporting ‘Get Taylor Swift A Booty’ on #fundly.”

What Diplo did to Swift is sect of body shaming, sometimes called “thin-shaming,” and proof that every woman’s body is policed as aggressively as if we were somehow enlisted in some beauty pageant that never ends.

"Women’s bodies seem to be picked apart like chickens," Robyn Silverman, body image expert, professional speaker and author if Good Girls Don’t Get Fat: How Weight Obsession Is Messing Up Our Girls & How We Can Help Them Thrive Despite It, tells Yahoo Style. ”Constant evaluations of parts like breasts, thighs and legs are common. Women aren’t just objectified, they are dissected and criticized. These body shaming messages tell people that your parts are more important than the whole person, you are only as good as the sum of your parts and no matter what you look like you will be critiqued. It’s no wonder that many women develop scripts inside their heads that tell them they are not good enough as they are and no matter what, they never will be.”

Lindy West wrote on Jezebel, in a column about thin-shaming, “Thin-shaming and fat-shaming are not separate, opposing issues — they are stratifications of the same issue: Patriarchal culture’s need to demoralize, distract, and pit women against one another. To keep women shackled by shame and hunger. To keep us obsessing over our flaws rather than our power and potential. To get our money.” Read More

Am I the only person who thinks this is sickening? I am not according to the article but some people do this all the time and don't think it is wrong and it is not just "internet trolling".

 

[auntiehill]

If you want to judge someone on his or her intelligence or skill or talent, knock yourself out. But mocking someone because of their body type isn't to your liking is pretty low. I choose to ignore that kind of childish cruelty, if at all possible.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

That's pretty fucked up. Her weight and body shape are her business and no one else's. I don't know why some people seem to have trouble with this concept.

 

[gblews]

She is in the public eye partially because of the way she looks. You take the bitter with the sweet. I don't see anyone protesting when there is a polite comment made about how beautiul her eyes, lips, hair, legs, body, etc, are. She certainly has no problem making her looks an issue in videos and movies so it seems like people only get upset if something negative is written or said about a celeb's body. When you trade on your looks, expect your looks to be critiqued.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

She is in the public eye partially because of the way she looks. You take the bitter with the sweet. I don't see anyone protesting when there is a polite comment made about how beautiul her eyes, lips, hair, legs, body, etc, are. She certainly has no problem making her looks an issue in videos and movies so it seems like people only get upset if something negative is written or said about a celeb's body. When you trade on your looks, expect your looks to be critiqued.

Why don't people protest polite and respectful compliments? Well, gee, let me put my thinking cap on for that one.

Also, I think you'll find that people do protest what some mistakenly think are polite compliments depending on the context. If a woman you don't know is walking down the street and you shout "Hey beautiful!", it's not the right time (as several recent street harassment videos have illustrated). If a woman is in the workplace or in Congress and all her colleagues can comment on is her appearance, thus undermining her as a professional, it's not the right time (as related in Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's recent book). Also, I don't know if Taylor Swift would necessarily appreciate a complimentary public discussion of her legs, butt, or breasts, either. Context matters.

Diplo (apropos dumbass name) didn't just make a single passing comment on Twitter, which would have been douchy enough but limited. He also retweeted a bunch of people and promoted a stupid petition, which got more attention and articles written about it, which I'm sure feels great for her as more and more people pile on.

People need to stop thinking that their personal preference is somehow the default and that your targets are interested in you passing judgment on them. If you prefer big butts, more power to you. Why do you feel the need to comment on someone with a completely different body type? She's a tall, skinny young woman, so that's just not in the cards for her, not that it should have to be.

Nor does it solely affect Taylor Swift. Young girls who look up to her are caught between conflicting attitudes of guys who think curvier girls with big butts are fat and thinner girls need to "eat a hamburger" (to borrow a frequently used phrase around here), so at the time of their life when everyone has awkward body image issues already, they're getting bombarded with constant mixed messages in the news and social media.

Even more obnoxious are the concern trolling amateur internet physicians who pretend they're saving perfectly healthy but naturally thin young women from anorexia or something when all their doing is projecting their own preferences onto others. Are you her doctor? No. Then shut the hell up. Yes, there are celebrities with genuine eating disorders, but the constant crying wolf and hyperbole over women who are simply thin doesn't help their situation, and make the targets of that negativity and women who observe it feel bad.

Yes, Taylor Swift's appearance is a major part of her image and her brand as a performer, but that doesn't give people carte blanche to be dicks about it. If you (general you) want to pay her a compliment, that's fine, but there's no need to be rude.

 

[gblews]

She is in the public eye partially because of the way she looks. You take the bitter with the sweet. I don't see anyone protesting when there is a polite comment made about how beautiul her eyes, lips, hair, legs, body, etc, are. She certainly has no problem making her looks an issue in videos and movies so it seems like people only get upset if something negative is written or said about a celeb's body. When you trade on your looks, expect your looks to be critiqued.

Why don't people protest polite and respectful compliments? Well, gee, let me put my thinking cap on for that one.

It is STILL a comment on her looks. It sounds like Taylor isn't concerned with comments on her looks, only negative comments. I'de have some respect for Taylor's position if she also protested positive comments on her looks, but this sounds like she wants to have her cake and eat it too.

Also, I think you'll find that people do protest what some mistakenly think are polite compliments depending on the context. If a woman you don't know is walking down the street and you shout "Hey beautiful!", it's not the right time

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the word, "polite".

If a woman is in the workplace or in Congress and all her colleagues can comment on is her appearance, thus undermining her as a professional, it's not the right time (as related in Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's recent book).

The Senator isn't trading on her looks, right?

Also, I don't know if Taylor Swift would necessarily appreciate a complimentary public discussion of her legs, butt, or breasts, either. Context matters.

She might not want to be present, but I'll bet she'd be perfectly fine knowing that these conversations are going on...as long as they're complimentary, that is.

Nor does it solely affect Taylor Swift. Young girls who look up to her are caught between conflicting attitudes of guys who think curvier girls with big butts are fat and thinner girls need to "eat a hamburger" (to borrow a frequently used phrase around here), so at the time of their life when everyone has awkward body image issues already, they're getting bombarded with constant mixed messages in the news and social media.

I raised a daughter so I am acutely aware of the problem. I went through great pains to point out to her the differences between the way the media deals with men's bodies as opposed to women's.

However, there are always going to be celebs like Taylor who sell their looks. Parents have to get in their children's ears and point this stuff out.

 

[Taylirious]

The media and non-fans care more about her looks than actual fans who connect with her through her music. I didn't know what she looked like when I fell in love with her music.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

It's sad. Society berates women for having curves AND being thin. Taylor is naturally slim, big deal. At the end of the day I care about her music, not her looks. 1989 is a masterpiece!

 

[Taylirious]

It's sad. Society berates women for having curves AND being thin. Taylor is naturally slim, big deal. At the end of the day I care about her music, not her looks. 1989 is a masterpiece!

Amen!

 

[Amaris]

She is in the public eye partially because of the way she looks. You take the bitter with the sweet. I don't see anyone protesting when there is a polite comment made about how beautiul her eyes, lips, hair, legs, body, etc, are. She certainly has no problem making her looks an issue in videos and movies so it seems like people only get upset if something negative is written or said about a celeb's body. When you trade on your looks, expect your looks to be critiqued.

Why don't people protest polite and respectful compliments? Well, gee, let me put my thinking cap on for that one.

It is STILL a comment on her looks. It sounds like Taylor isn't concerned with comments on her looks, only negative comments. I'de have some respect for Taylor's position if she also protested positive comments on her looks, but this sounds like she wants to have her cake and eat it too.


Yeah, that's why I mentioned the word, "polite".

The Senator isn't trading on her looks, right?

Also, I don't know if Taylor Swift would necessarily appreciate a complimentary public discussion of her legs, butt, or breasts, either. Context matters.

She might not want to be present, but I'll bet she'd be perfectly fine knowing that these conversations are going on...as long as they're complimentary, that is.

Nor does it solely affect Taylor Swift. Young girls who look up to her are caught between conflicting attitudes of guys who think curvier girls with big butts are fat and thinner girls need to "eat a hamburger" (to borrow a frequently used phrase around here), so at the time of their life when everyone has awkward body image issues already, they're getting bombarded with constant mixed messages in the news and social media.

I raised a daughter so I am acutely aware of the problem. I went through great pains to point out to her the differences between the way the media deals with men's bodies as opposed to women's.

However, there are always going to be celebs like Taylor who sell their looks. Parents have to get in their children's ears and point this stuff out.

So what you're saying is that she should be offended at the tune of your sensibilities? You realize your statement boils down to "She likes the compliments, but hates the negative comments! What's wrong with her?!" which just makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

It sounds like Taylor isn't concerned with comments on her looks, only negative comments. I'de have some respect for Taylor's position if she also protested positive comments on her looks, but this sounds like she wants to have her cake and eat it too.

It doesn't sound like anything, because Taylor Swift isn't quoted anywhere in the article. Is there some other source you're basing your comments and your lack of "respect" for her on, or are you making assumptions to go along with your opinion that she's "trading on" and "selling" her body (which is a pretty troublesome way to describe it on your part, by the way, bordering on slut-shaming)?

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the word, "polite".

And that's why I mentioned that a lot of what some guys consider to be polite and innocuous comments about women's appearance are anything but.

The Senator isn't trading on her looks, right?

Swift's a performer, so appearance is certainly an important part of the job, but it's not as if she's a model whose appearance is the key factor in their celebrity (not that that makes being rude any more justifiable). She's a singer/songwriter/performer first, whose body of work is of more importance than her body in everything I've seen her do. In fact, Swift seems to humbly favor depicting herself as sort of awkward and gawky in what I've seen of her performances and videos. I've never seen her pretend to seriously be a supermodel or run around showing off or anything, which would be her right and shouldn't open her up for body shaming.

She might not want to be present, but I'll bet she'd be perfectly fine knowing that these conversations are going on...as long as they're complimentary, that is.

You seem to be making an awful lot of assumptions about her attitude and opinions.

 

[Pingfah]

Taylor Swift's ass didn't sell 2 million records in the last 2 weeks. Bewilderingly, that's mostly down to her music which people seem to genuinely love.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Taylor Swift's ass didn't sell 2 million records in the last 2 weeks. Bewilderingly, that's mostly down to her music which people seem to genuinely love.

Yeah, that's why I'm confused about this "trading on her looks" thing.

It's not like she's out there shaking it like Britney used to.

 

[gblews]

So what you're saying is that she should be offended at the tune of your sensibilities? You realize your statement boils down to "She likes the compliments, but hates the negative comments! What's wrong with her?!" which just makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

I think you may have missed my point. If you are a person who is selling yourself to the public based partially or fully on your looks, or selling your looks, then you should be willing to accept that some may publically dislike some aspects of those "looks".

It sounds like Taylor isn't concerned with comments on her looks, only negative comments. I'de have some respect for Taylor's position if she also protested positive comments on her looks, but this sounds like she wants to have her cake and eat it too.

It doesn't sound like anything, because Taylor Swift isn't quoted anywhere in the article. Is there some other source you're basing your comments and your lack of "respect" for her on, or are you making assumptions to go along with your opinion that she's "trading on" and "selling" her body (which is a pretty troublesome way to describe it on your part, by the way, bordering on slut-shaming)?

You're right. I don't know what Taylor's position on this is. I knew this while I was writing my posts and should have mentioned it. Because this incident involved Taylor, I was kind of using her as a surrogate for any good looking celeb who is selling their looks and then gets "outraged" when their looks are publically criticized. Also, I implied a lack of respect for her "position", not a lack of respect for Taylor.

Don't be naive. Taylor is selling her body, face, all of it as a package. She isn't selling it in quite same way Beyonce or Nikki Minaj or Katy Perry are, but selling it nonetheless. Call if "slut shaming" (whatever that is), if you want.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the word, "polite".

And that's why I mentioned that a lot of what some guys consider to be polite and innocuous comments about women's appearance are anything but.

The Senator isn't trading on her looks, right?

Swift's a performer, so appearance is certainly an important part of the job, but it's not as if she's a model whose appearance is the key factor in their celebrity (not that that makes being rude any more justifiable). She's a singer/songwriter/performer first, whose body of work is of more importance than her body in everything I've seen her do. In fact, Swift seems to humbly favor depicting herself as sort of awkward and gawky in what I've seen of her performances and videos. I've never seen her pretend to seriously be a supermodel or run around showing off or anything, which would be her right and shouldn't open her up for body shaming.

You're splitting hairs here. Every time Taylor appears in a professional capacity, meaning, while performing, guesting on a show, magazine covers, videos, etc, she is partially selling herself based on her looks. And BTW, hasn't she appeared on the covers of fashion magazines -- in fashion mag layouts? Not a model, huh?

She might not want to be present, but I'll bet she'd be perfectly fine knowing that these conversations are going on...as long as they're complimentary, that is.

You seem to be making an awful lot of assumptions about her attitude and opinions.

It's my opinion on what she may be thinking, I didn't say it was fact.

Here is what I'de like to hear Taylor say about this incident, and this would be for so many little girls (and some boys) out there who look up to her; instead of being "outraged" that someone dared offer a negative opinion on her looks, she simply states something like this "who cares what diplo thinks of me, I'm not perfect, I know this better than anyone, yeah, I have a flat butt, but I'm satisfied with the way I look despite what anyone else thinks". I would stand and applaud this young woman if she something like this.

Instead of trying to shut people up, emphasize to kids that EVERYONE has little imperfections, even those who we think are the most beautiful, but there is nothing wrong with that and it is no reason to think that there is something wrong with you because of those little imperfections.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

It's my opinion on what she may be thinking, I didn't say it was fact.

Here is what I'de like to hear Taylor say about this incident, and this would be for so many little girls (and some boys) out there who look up to her; instead of being "outraged" that someone dared offer a negative opinion on her looks, she simply states something like this "who cares what diplo thinks of me, I'm not perfect, I know this better than anyone, yeah, I have a flat butt, but I'm satisfied with the way I look despite what anyone else thinks". I would stand and applaud this young woman if she something like this.

Instead of trying to shut people up, emphasize to kids that EVERYONE has little imperfections, even those who we think are the most beautiful, but there is nothing wrong with that and it is no reason to think that there is something wrong with you because of those little imperfections.

So in order to gain your all-important respect despite doing nothing wrong, the imaginary Taylor Swift in your head (because again, the real one didn't say anything in the article and you haven't quoted anything) needs to stop hypothetically being "outraged" and "shutting people up" and acknowledge the "truth" in this dumbass' comments about her appearance which she didn't solicit. Seems reasonable.

 

[sidious618]

Of course someone has a right to criticize Swift's looks. Just like everyone else has a right to call that person a shallow sexist for saying such a thing. Hey, if you don't want your words criticized then don't put them out there, right?

Edit: I honestly have no idea why anyone would even try to defend what this idiot is doing with his petition. It's incredibly hateful. We know for a fact that there is a body image problem, especially among teens, so having a teen idol be vilified for the way she looks will only exacerbate the problem. But, hey, we have to remember that it's always time to criticize a woman for her looks since she dares to be in public.

 

[gblews]

It's my opinion on what she may be thinking, I didn't say it was fact.

Here is what I'de like to hear Taylor say about this incident, and this would be for so many little girls (and some boys) out there who look up to her; instead of being "outraged" that someone dared offer a negative opinion on her looks, she simply states something like this "who cares what diplo thinks of me, I'm not perfect, I know this better than anyone, yeah, I have a flat butt, but I'm satisfied with the way I look despite what anyone else thinks". I would stand and applaud this young woman if she something like this.

Instead of trying to shut people up, emphasize to kids that EVERYONE has little imperfections, even those who we think are the most beautiful, but there is nothing wrong with that and it is no reason to think that there is something wrong with you because of those little imperfections.

So in order to gain your all-important respect despite doing nothing wrong, the imaginary Taylor Swift in your head (because again, the real one didn't say anything in the article and you haven't quoted anything) needs to stop hypothetically being "outraged" and "shutting people up" and acknowledge the "truth" in this dumbass' comments about her appearance which she didn't solicit. Seems reasonable.

Actually, I was speaking generally here but okay, since you can't seem to get over this, I am speaking about the imaginary Taylor Swift in my mind who is hypothetically outraged.

As for "shutting people up" I wasn't referring to even "imaginary" Taylor there, but to folks who are more interested in getting people to not say "hurtful" things, which can never be done, than in helping build a culture that girds individual esteem to the point that those "hurtful" things don't cause hurt, self doubt, destruction of self esteem.

 

[Gov Kodos]

It's my opinion on what she may be thinking, I didn't say it was fact.

Your opinion on what you assume she may be thinking? That, in a thread regarding a poster's opinion on an article that she has no expressed opinion or statement in at all? You are arguing about a position you have concocted in your head. Why should this self-indulgence be taken at all seriously?

 

[AgentCoop]

I don't get this "trading on her looks" rationale. She tries to look as good as possible when she performs or appears in public, which is what anyone would do. She looks the way she looks. Should she wear a burqa? What exactly would Taylor Swift have to do in order to avoid "selling her looks"?

 

[Trekker4747]

Maybe Kim Cardassian can lend her some booty?

Taylor Swift looks just fine, so does Kim -though he recent nude photos with her lathered up in oil aren't very appealing to me-, when is stuff like this going to stop being such a damn issue.