Garak and Bashir

[DS9 Gal AZ]

Just going to put the question out there:

Did you see a sexual subtext between them? How did you view the relationship?

 

[Photon]

Not Julian, but sometimes the Ex-Spy seemed a little too.....um.....

 

[Red Ranger]

Brokeback Station. "I wish I knew how to quit you," Garak said with anguish!

 

[Gul Re'jal]

I never saw anything. I wouldn't even think about it, if not people talking about it.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Just going to be the question out there:

Did you see a sexual subtext between them? How did you view the relationship?

I think Garak may have been interested in Bashir sexually.
The way Andrew Robinson has spoken about the character of Garak, combined with the way he acted, does make me think that Garak was capable of being interested in men, and that Robinson was told to tone it down by TPTB.

However, I never saw anything onscreen to indicate that Bashir returned any sexual interest, only friendship.

I think that of all the possible slash couples in Trekdom, this is the one with the most possible substance there. It's not canon, but it is far more plausible.

 

[DS9 Gal AZ]

"The Wire" is one of my favorite episodes. Re-watching it now, being older and more attuned to HoYAY! ... I think it's there.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2q2ySAOyqo

Discuss.

 

[Destructor]

I saw it from episode 1. Garak totes set my gaydar off, and still does. I spoke about this with Andrew Robinson about this many years later and he completely confirmed it.

 

[Rush Limborg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2q2ySAOyqo

Discuss.

I myself, as you can see, made quite a few comments on that clip. My personal favorite was something I wrote that's now on page 2....

But anyhow, I'd say, 1) Julian's "Very...funny...." is a tired acknowledgement of Garak's "subtext", with an "Oh, dear, there he goes again....", and 2) Garak's whining tone with, "But these were meant for you!" is a nice implication of it all, with Julian's smirk saying, "Sorry...you won't get anything from me...."

At any rate, the moment I saw Garak grab the seated Julian by the shoulders in their first scene, and talk in his ear...I knew right then he was...intrigued...by the good doctor.

I can just imagine...Garak remarking to Julian, just after Ezri leaves the table to start her shift:

Garak: (looking after her) Quite a lovely girl...wouldn't you agree, Doctor?

Bashir: (keeping his face blank) I suppose. What's your point?

Garak: (smiling at him) Oh...nothing. Nothing at all. I was simply wondering...if I now faced competition from a worthy rival.

Bashir: (shaking his head) Competition for what?

Garak: Why...your company, naturally.... And I must confess--the good counselor is a most worthy rival indeed....

 

[Amaris]

Just going to be the question out there:

Did you see a sexual subtext between them? How did you view the relationship?

I think Garak may have been interested in Bashir sexually.
The way Andrew Robinson has spoken about the character of Garak, combined with the way he acted, does make me think that Garak was capable of being interested in men, and that Robinson was told to tone it down by TPTB.

However, I never saw anything onscreen to indicate that Bashir returned any sexual interest, only friendship.

I think that of all the possible slash couples in Trekdom, this is the one with the most possible substance there. It's not canon, but it is far more plausible.

Agreed. I love the friendly* relationship between Garak and Bashir. Personally, I wouldn't want it to go any further even though I don't have a problem with it, I just think they work much better as friends, and of course, that's what made it so fun. Garak has to be, without a doubt, my absolute favorite character on DS9 (with Odo, Quark and O'Brien a close second).



*Friendly with the caveat that for all we know, Garak is lying through his teeth to the Good Doctor.

 

[ares93]

*Friendly with the caveat that for all we know, Garak is lying through his teeth to the Good Doctor.

uhm, he's lying through his teeth to everyone...

 

[Amaris]

*Friendly with the caveat that for all we know, Garak is lying through his teeth to the Good Doctor.

uhm, he's lying through his teeth to everyone...

That, of course, is a given.

 

[Praxius]

I never saw anything. I wouldn't even think about it, if not people talking about it.

Agreed.... They seemed like friends. Garak's original interest in him, to me, seemed like someone young and gullible whom he could screw with his mind since he was bored on the station and a tad isolated.... He was the only one who seemed to give him a chance.

Meanwhile Garak seemed like a challenge to Bashir in order to figure out if he was a spy, as well as being quite intelligent, thus a challenge to his intellect unlike others on the station.

The only time I ever heard of them possibly being gay and having some sort of sexual interest in one another is through the fantasies of a few members of these forums who revolve around the actor being quoted as wanting his character to be gay or hinted as being gay..... but since he's the actor and not the creator/writer of the character and those who created and written the character didn't agree with that concept, his personal wishes are irrelevant.

 

[Praxius]

At any rate, the moment I saw Garak grab the seated Julian by the shoulders in their first scene, and talk in his ear...I knew right then he was...intrigued...by the good doctor.

^ So is Q gay?

 

[Mr. Scott]

I think they were just friends. Garak is an excellent conversationalist. I think Garak told a beginningly niave Bashir what life was like at the border.

Bashir was heterosexual. Very. Garak never said. I don't believe he was homosexual, I think there were no one on the station that he wanted to be with. Ziyal was very young, and Garak was her father's age. Garak wanted to be a surrogate father to her, while Ziyal thought of Garak as a lover and future husband, out of rebellion of her father Dukat. Dukat laid down the law with Garak about his relationship with Ziyal. But Dukat being a muscleheaded dumbass should of known Garak wasn't going that way.

Garak homosexual? The series doesn't say.

 

[Rush Limborg]

At any rate, the moment I saw Garak grab the seated Julian by the shoulders in their first scene, and talk in his ear...I knew right then he was...intrigued...by the good doctor.

^ So is Q gay?

1) Q didn't grab his shoulders.

2) In Q-In-Law (by the incomparable PAD), Q briefly transforms himself into a smoking hot "she"...to demonstrate to Jean-Luc that gender means nothing to him. Picard is not amused.

 

[RegFan]

Garak always seems to be attracted to Bashir. The end of their first scene proves, to me at least, that their attraction was mutual.

As for Picard and Q, I always saw Q's interest in Picard as sexual and one-sided. And Q isn't gay, he only appears as male.

 

[Amaris]

Plus, whether they wrote Garak as bisexual or not, Robinson said he played Garak as bisexual and ambiguous.

 

[TerokNor]

There are a few scenes, especially in the beginning, were Garak seems a bit interessted in Bashir, but not the other way around. The "then you eat it" scene however I experience as friendship, nothing more, nothing less.

TerokNor

 

[Kpnuts]

I saw more in Julian/O'Brien