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Spoilers Frozen II - Review and Discussion

Rate Frozen II

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Frozen II, the sequel to 2013's Frozen, picks up the story of Elas, Anna, Olaf, Kristoff and Sven 3 years after the original, as Elsa is drawn to a magical forest tied to her powers, by a mysterious voice.
Most of the cast from the first movie returns, including:
Idena Menzel as Elsa
Kristen Bell as Anna
Johnathan Groff as Kristoff
and Josh Gad as Olaf
They joined by:
Alfred Molina and Jackson Stein as adult and child versions of Anna and Elsa's father King Agnar
Evan Rachel Wood and Delaney Rose Stein as the adult and child versions of Anna and Elsa's mother Queen Iduna
Sterling K. Brown as Lieutenant Destin Mattias, an Arendelle soldier encountered in the forest
Martha Plimpton as Yelana, the leader of the Northuldra
Jason Ritter as Ryder, a Northuldra and Honeymarren's brother
Rachel Matthews as Honeymarren, a Northuldra and Ryder's sister
Jeremy Sisto as King Runard, Agnar's father
Ciaran Hinds as Grand Pabbie,

I really enjoyed this, it was a nice follow up to the first one, that expanded the world in some cool ways, and had some more great music.
One of the big new things this explores is the origins of Elas's powers, and I thought they did it in a nice way that made sense. The only thing that kind of bugged me is I didn't really understand what exactly the voice that Elsa heard was supposed to be.
The movie's animation is absolutely gorgeous, with some really impressive sequences.
My favorite songs were When I'm Older, and Show Yourself.
 
I'm giving it an A+ mainly because Elsa is ten times more badass in this film than I thought she was in the last one. I don't think the songs were quite as good, but I could listen to Idina Menzel sing all day long, so that didn't phase me.

JD said:
The only thing that kind of bugged me is I didn't really understand what exactly the voice that Elsa heard was supposed to be.
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That was the frozen mystic river calling to Elsa in her mother's voice. I thought that was kind of obvious
 
Frozen II
The sequel the original 2012 Frozen, and also based on The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen. The movie starts, showing the status quo in Arendelle following the events of the previous movie. Anna and Kristoff have hit it off, and Elsa has settled into a routine. However, as would be a theme through the film, things are not as they seem. A flashback to a bedtime story by their parents about an enchanted forest, sets the scene. What they know, is only the surface of what actually happened.
Setting the scene, Elsa hears a strange call. Ooo-ooooooh ooo-oooh. But she resists it. She doesn't want to go into the unknown. But it has her distracted, and fearful that she'd make some mistake. But, again things are not as they seem. Meanwhile, Anna is concerned about her sister, that she seems distracted during a family game night. Then there is Kristoff, who wants to propose to Anna, but something keeps happening to stop it. (Another plot line that runs through the film.) Then something happens...
The Kingdom is not safe! Elsa tries to take a stand against the strange call, but something strange happens to Arendelle. The gas lamps go out, the fountains stop and a strange wind blows through the city, prompting an evacuation. The situation in Arendelle as this occurs was depicted very well. Cheif Pebble explains that the past is not what it seems and that Elsa needs to go to find out what it actually was, or Arendelle would have no future. Then Anna says that she would not let Elsa go alone.
Hence they travel to the location of the Standing Stones at the entrance of the Enchanted Forest. Anna being concerned about Elsa. Olaf asking existential questions. Kristoff still trying to 'pop the question'. In all this is a very well conceived sequence, especially as they arrive at the forest, and discover that their father survived an attack. The revelation that their mother was Northuldra was done rather well too. With Arendelle being Nordic-derived, the Northuldra are derived from the Sámi.
There their journey continues. The encounters with the wind and fire spirits were done well, especially the latter. As was Elsa and Anna's concern for each other. “You can't just follow me into fire!” “Then don't run into fire!” The Fire Newt is appropriately cute. The tense relations between the Arendellian soldiers and the Northuldra were also appropriately depicted. But, Elsa realises she has to go further to, Ahtohallan where the mysteries of the past can be resolved. But first another discovery by her and Anna further shakes what they knew.
Elsa struggles to use her powers to get to Ahtohallan, with the water spirit impeding her before she can befriend it. However, as a result of what Elsa discovers there, Anna has to make a decision. More like a few. But compared to the major decision, deciding to deal with grief would be easy. To sacrifice Arendelle to restore the balance? But should she had consulted others before making this decision? The soldiers fall in with her, but she had already made the decision. Kristoff also agrees, but then he would...
In conclusion, it was certainly an interesting film, with a conclusion that I certainly didn't see coming. The themes of relationships, and a past that wasn't what it seems certainly resonate, and are topical in these times. The relations between the Arendellians and the Northuldra and King Runeard's intention to deceive them do have real world parallels, both in history and the present day. Are these issues treated sensitively? I think they are, but see above regarding Anna's decision. The sisterly relationship between Elsa and Anna just make it better.
Overall, it is on par with the first film. 9/10.
 
Wow, so we the only two people on here who actually saw this? I'm kind of shocked, I expected this to be a huge thread.
 
I saw it last week. It was a huge disappointment. An unnecessary sequel. Too many songs that felt like filler instead of being awesome. Olaf annoyed me a lot. It felt like there wasn’t really a story.

The fire spirit was adorable though and I did like “Show Yourself”.
 
JD said:
Wow, so we the only two people on here who actually saw this? I'm kind of shocked, I expected this to be a huge thread.
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I saw it back in December. I really enjoyed it. I actually thought the songs in this movie were a little better than the songs in the first movie, like Kristoph's rock opera "Lost in the Woods". In terms of story, the first film was slightly better but both were really good.
 
Bumping the thread to say that, after watching the Making of documentary that's available on Disney +, it can be officially stated that Disney really promoted the wrong song from this movie as the new "Let It Go".

It's not "Into the Unknown" that is the successor song to LiG; it's "Show Yourself".

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Frozen II is a decent enough follow-up, but the songs aren't in the same league as the first film. Show Yourself was my favourite song by far, though.
 
^ I've heard most of Frozen II's songs frequently enough to disagree with you about the songs from Frozen 1 being better.

There's not a truly bad song across either film, IMO, but the Lopezes outdid themselves with songs like Lost in the Woods, The Next Right Thing, Some Things Never Change, and the aforementioned Show Yourself.
 
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