Poll Favorite PLANET OF THE APES films & tv series?

[feek61]

Nothing like the first 1968 film

 

[JD]

I don't understand the desire to treat this as somehow of a piece with the original franchise. It's a complete reboot. It's taking the concept and reinventing it from the ground up. It's not going to lead into the original movie, because the original movie was a fantasy and this is a much more realistic new take informed by 50 more years of primate research. It's apples and oranges.

Reeves comments about not remaking the original because these moves lead to the original, are what got me wondering about the timeline. I don't have a problem with the new movies being complete reboots, but Reeves comments just got me wondering if there was a way for the new movies to coexist with the original.

It seems like the humans are on a mission to kill the apes.

In some of the interviews stuff they've said that the Apes are trying to track down the Woody Harrelson's human villain, The Colonel after something bad involving him happens.
After the trailer,

Spoiler: plot element revealed in the trailer

I'm thinking it's probably the attack on the Apes' new community.

 

[Christopher]

Reeves comments about not remaking the original because these moves lead to the original, are what got me wondering about the timeline. I don't have a problem with the new movies being complete reboots, but Reeves comments just got me wondering if there was a way for the new movies to coexist with the original.

I don't think he meant that literally -- just that the events of the original are a touchstone that would be shared by different tellings of the story, just like we know that, say, any story about the formative years of Clark Kent will end up with Superman and Lois and the Daily Planet, regardless of what continuity it's in. I mean, the core premise of Planet of the Apes is right there in the title. That's the way Earth ends up in any series of that name. That's what Reeves means -- we know that's where it's headed, so that doesn't need to be restated. It's more interesting to fill in the blanks of how it got there.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I know that was in the pilot episode Escape From Tomorrow" the old book states 2503 A.D.
In the original five films timeline there would be no New York City like that in 2503 or published book.
At the 18 minute mark:

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True--the TV series producers purposely avoided the original timeline to pick up where the altered, "Caesar" timeline ended--in California, with talking humans, no organized human hunting, etc. The producers had the option of doing whatever they desired--the show just as easily could have been set in Anywhere, U.S.A., since they were going to use the same Fox Ranch, make-up, costumes, lots and occasional matte paintings to create their Ape world. Instead, the series dives right back to the altered culture left/implied by Battle, with none of the hardline world (Taylor faced) to be found.

As noted before, certain details do not line up with the films (then again, this also applies when examining the films alone), but there's no clear, new world created for POTA-TV.

Return to the Planet of the Apes is another matter...

• The ape culture used man-made modes of transportation, such as jeeps, tanks and airplanes when the movie and live action TV ape cultures were never so advanced.
  
• The cartoon astronauts traveled in a very 1960's NASA-styled capsule (the Venturer) in 1976--4 years after Taylor's flight in the sleek, split window ship--similar to Vidon and Burke's ship launched in 1980. With a continuity of the new kind of spacecraft used in 3 movies and the live-action series, the RTTPOTA ship would be a glaring visual anachronism--if the series was accepted as part of the live action productions.

 

[Dayton Ward]

I have a soft spot for the TV series. My story for the upcoming anthology is a Virdon/Burke/Galen tale, and I also wrote an essay about the show (and how - or if - it fits into the larger chronology) for an upcoming collection of Planet of the Apes essays for the Sequart Organization.

 

[Galileo7]

True--the TV series producers purposely avoided the original timeline to pick up where the altered, "Caesar" timeline ended--in California, with talking humans, no organized human hunting, etc. The producers had the option of doing whatever they desired--the show just as easily could have been set in Anywhere, U.S.A., since they were going to use the same Fox Ranch, make-up, costumes, lots and occasional matte paintings to create their Ape world. Instead, the series dives right back to the altered culture left/implied by Battle, with none of the hardline world (Taylor faced) to be found.

As noted before, certain details do not line up with the films (then again, this also applies when examining the films alone), but there's no clear, new world created for POTA-TV.

Return to the Planet of the Apes is another matter...

• The ape culture used man-made modes of transportation, such as jeeps, tanks and airplanes when the movie and live action TV ape cultures were never so advanced.
  
• The cartoon astronauts traveled in a very 1960's NASA-styled capsule (the Venturer) in 1976--4 years after Taylor's flight in the sleek, split window ship--similar to Vidon and Burke's ship launched in 1980. With a continuity of the new kind of spacecraft used in 3 movies and the live-action series, the RTTPOTA ship would be a glaring visual anachronism--if the series was accepted as part of the live action productions.

Agree.

POTA-TV southern California-Mexico Baja location

POTA-TV A.N.S.A.

RTTPOTA N.A.S.A. Venturer


Another interesting POTA Timeline:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/planet-of-the-apes-a-timeline-and-an-explanation-1603218068

 

[Greg Cox]

I have a soft spot for the TV series. My story for the upcoming anthology is a Virdon/Burke/Galen tale, and I also wrote an essay about the show (and how - or if - it fits into the larger chronology) for an upcoming collection of Planet of the Apes essays for the Sequart Organization.

I've been enjoying the reruns on MeTV.

 

[Christopher]

I've been enjoying the reruns on MeTV.

Which just finished this past weekend (or rather, will restart with the first episode this weekend). It held up better than I remembered, though it's a very '70s episodic show with no arc to speak of.

 

[Galileo7]

Which just finished this past weekend (or rather, will restart with the first episode this weekend). It held up better than I remembered, though it's a very '70s episodic show with no arc to speak of.

When they edited POTA-TV episodes together for syndication as telemovies in 1981.
Roddy McDowall filmed host scenes as Galen and in this one he states that Virdon and Burke did get back in time home...

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[JD]

I don't think he meant that literally -- just that the events of the original are a touchstone that would be shared by different tellings of the story, just like we know that, say, any story about the formative years of Clark Kent will end up with Superman and Lois and the Daily Planet, regardless of what continuity it's in. I mean, the core premise of Planet of the Apes is right there in the title. That's the way Earth ends up in any series of that name. That's what Reeves means -- we know that's where it's headed, so that doesn't need to be restated. It's more interesting to fill in the blanks of how it got there.

That makes sense.

 

[JD]

I've been enjoying the reruns on MeTV.

Which just finished this past weekend (or rather, will restart with the first episode this weekend). It held up better than I remembered, though it's a very '70s episodic show with no arc to speak of.

I really wish Me showed them earlier. I would love to check the series out, but I don't have a DVR and I'm usually asleep by the time it's on.

Do any of you guys know if Boom!'s POTA comics are any good?

 

[Snaploud]

Do any of you guys know if Boom!'s POTA comics are any good?

Boom! Studios has done a number of different POTA comics with different timeframes, continuities, and writers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(comics)

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

When they edited POTA-TV episodes together for syndication as telemovies in 1981.
Roddy McDowall filmed host scenes as Galen and in this one he states that Virdon and Burke did get back in time home...

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The framing shots of "old Galen" were only in certain U.S. markets. For example, when the "movies" premiered on Los Angeles TV (KTLA), the "movies" used the TV series main / end titles and no "old Galen" framing scenes. Even without the Galen stuff, one lighter running plot was Virdon's magnetic disc (flight record), and how he felt finding a suitable technology to read it could give the astronauts the key to returning home.

 

[bigdaddy]

I'd say the first one, then Dawn, then Rise or Conquest. The rest are just "ehh" and kind of blend together in my mind.

 

[Galileo7]

The framing shots of "old Galen" were only in certain U.S. markets. For example, when the "movies" premiered on Los Angeles TV (KTLA), the "movies" used the TV series main / end titles and no "old Galen" framing scenes. Even without the Galen stuff, one lighter running plot was Virdon's magnetic disc (flight record), and how he felt finding a suitable technology to read it could give the astronauts the key to returning home.

I wish they had done a new POTA-TV telefilm in '75 to actually show how they departed and close the series properly as Galen stated. I wonder if a comic book was ever done on POTA-TV.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Maybe one of the stories in the new anthology will tell that tale.

Planet of the Apes was actually the very first TV series that I bought on DVD.

 

[Starbreaker]

I love the first two films and have a soft spot for the Burton film. I think the rest are pretty forgettable. I know the last two get a lot of praise, but I think they're boring.

 

[Galileo7]

POTA(1968)

BENEATH TPOTA(1970)

ESCAPE TPOTA(1971)

POTA-TV Series(1974-75)

RISE OTPOTA(2011), I wonder what upcoming POTA film will depict the fate of the Icarus on a future Earth?

Hoping the War For The POTA in 2017 might reveal the fate of the Icarus.

 

[RJDiogenes]

I'm haunting my front porch waiting for my contributor's copies--and looking forward to reading the other stories.

Well, it didn't show up on my front porch (good thing, since I'm in the middle of a little hurricane here), but Planet of the Apes: Tales from the Forbidden Zone magically appeared on my Kindle this morning.

 

[Greg Cox]

Well, it didn't show up on my front porch (good thing, since I'm in the middle of a little hurricane here), but Planet of the Apes: Tales from the Forbidden Zone magically appeared on my Kindle this morning.

Yep! Today is the day!