Does the Pon Farr cycle ever stop?

[JonnyQuest037]

Hey, quick question: Has any Star Trek show established a point in the Vulcan male's life where the Pon Farr cycle stops (sort of like a Vulcan menopause, I suppose)? Or is it just "You're seized with an uncontrollable urge to mate every seven years from now until whenever you die"? Would Sarek still be having Pon Farrs at age 200?

I know VOY established Tuvok as well into his hundreds, although they were very inconsistent about his exact age. Did they ever have an episode where Tuvok underwent Pon Farr, or was that presented as something he no longer had to deal with? I've charted Spock's various Pon Farrs for every seven years of his life after "Amok Time" in both parts of my Star Trek Timeline, and I'm wondering if I should put the brakes on them at some point.

Thanks for any information you can provide!

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

It might stop and re-start based on any number of factors.

Given that Vulcans are a telepathic race, there might be a species wide curbing of the cycle during wartime, or famine. I could also see long-dormant (pon farr wise) older Vulcans reviving their cycles, either by choice or automatically, some time after Vulcan was destroyed in the Kelvinverse, out of species re-population necessity.

 

[matthunter]

Tuvok is suffering from Pon Farr in the ep Body and Soul (better remembered as "The One Where The Doctor Hijacks Seven's Body"

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Body_and_Soul_(episode)

 

[Farscape One]

I'm actually glad VGR addressed the pon farr for Tuvok in season 7. It had to get done before the series finale, since it's a 7 year cycle. At least the writers remembered that detail.

It also happens to Vulcan women. T'Pol is proof.

 

[The Wormhole]

Tuvok is suffering from Pon Farr in the ep Body and Soul (better remembered as "The One Where The Doctor Hijacks Seven's Body"

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Body_and_Soul_(episode)

That episode also states that the Vulcan libido increases with age, with the implication being that ponn farr gets even more serious as they get older.

Though with that in mind, Sarek ought to have a lot more children than the three we know of (one of them being adopted).

 

[Farscape One]

Sex doesn't always produce children.

 

[Oddish]

Tuvok is suffering from Pon Farr in the ep Body and Soul (better remembered as "The One Where The Doctor Hijacks Seven's Body"

He would have been about 113, then, or equivalent in human years to 50 or so. Plenty of fire left in the furnace.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

That episode also states that the Vulcan libido increases with age, with the implication being that ponn farr gets even more serious as they get older.

Hmmm... Interesting. I'll have to double check that episode to refresh my memory of it. Thanks!

 

[Oddish]

Is that Vulcan or Betazoid? We know it's the case with the latter, which is why Lwaxana had such a thing for Picard.

 

[Farscape One]

Tuvok did mention the Vulcan libido increases with age in "BODY AND SOUL".

 

[Ragitsu]

How funny is it that Betazoid women (emotionally open) and Vulcans (emotionally closed) both experience an increase in sex drive as they age? Toss in Deltans and Orion Slave Girls and it's a buyer's market for Humans.

 

[Oddish]

Tuvok did mention the Vulcan libido increases with age in "BODY AND SOUL".

Well, good thing Tom was better at recreating Vulcan nookie on the holodeck than the Doctor was in "Blood Fever".

 

[F. King Daniel]

Pon Farripause?

 

[Voodoowoman2]

Hey, quick question: Has any Star Trek show established a point in the Vulcan male's life where the Pon Farr cycle stops (sort of like a Vulcan menopause, I suppose)? Or is it just "You're seized with an uncontrollable urge to mate every seven years from now until whenever you die"? Would Sarek still be having Pon Farrs at age 200?

I know VOY established Tuvok as well into his hundreds, although they were very inconsistent about his exact age. Did they ever have an episode where Tuvok underwent Pon Farr, or was that presented as something he no longer had to deal with? I've charted Spock's various Pon Farrs for every seven years of his life after "Amok Time" in both parts of my Star Trek Timeline, and I'm wondering if I should put the brakes on them at some point.

Thanks for any information you can provide!

Good question. Tuvok informs us that the Vulcan libido only increases with age so that's a thing. My question is who is Spock with seven years after "Amok Time?" Ya know. He'd be due about 2274 if he was on schedule. Saavik wasn't around to give him the fingers so whom do we pick? Hmmmm? Teasing out Spock's personal life is fascinating isn't it?

 

[at Quark's]

I suppose it stops at death, at the very latest.

(Although, let's suppose for a moment it didn't even end then. They could have spiced up The Search for Spock a bit, with McCoy suffering the additional misfortune of also experiencing Pon Farr through Spocks katra.)

 

[Verteron]

Tuvok did mention the Vulcan libido increases with age in "BODY AND SOUL".

Even if the libido increases, Vulcans may learn to control the negative aspects of Ponn Farr over their long lives, so by the time they hit their later years it might be entirely manageable with meditation.

 

[Ragitsu]

I suppose it stops at death, at the very latest.

What does the (momentarily) incensed Vulcan girlfriend say?

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[Sci]

That episode also states that the Vulcan libido increases with age, with the implication being that ponn farr gets even more serious as they get older.

Though with that in mind, Sarek ought to have a lot more children than the three we know of (one of them being adopted).

Why? Him experiencing pon farr has no bearing on whether or not he or his partner(s) use contraception.

In addition, "Demons"/"Terra Prime" (ENT) established pretty firmly that Vulcans and Humans can only conceive children through medical intervention. Since Sarek married at least two Humans in his lifetime, it's extremely plausible that he would not have more children than Sybok, Spock, and Michael.

 

[Admiral Archer]

Good question. Tuvok informs us that the Vulcan libido only increases with age so that's a thing. My question is who is Spock with seven years after "Amok Time?" Ya know. He'd be due about 2274 if he was on schedule. Saavik wasn't around to give him the fingers so whom do we pick? Hmmmm? Teasing out Spock's personal life is fascinating isn't it?

Just putting this out there, but if we actually had a Paramount+ series about the post-TMP five year mission someday set aboard the refit Enterprise, we might actually get to see this happen!

Honestly, not to get off topic but I'm hoping someday for a SNW spinoff with Kirk and Spock on the refit Enterprise during Kirk's second five year mission as captain. Bring back Paul Wesley, Ethan Peck, Celia Rose Gooding, and Jess Bush and cast the rest of the TOS crew with age appropriate actors, and it would be my dream Trek.

Pon Farripause?

Came here to post pretty much just that! LOL

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

In addition, "Demons"/"Terra Prime" (ENT) established pretty firmly that Vulcans and Humans can only conceive children through medical intervention.

So Spock (the only child who was a biological product of Sarek and Amanda) was deliberate, not a surprise. Interesting aspect that wasn't explored. He can't say he wasn't wanted, just feel that what they wanted wasn't what they got (however wrong he may be about that).