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Detmer's implants

Jeff

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Im kinda surprised they havent addressed Detmer's implants yet. Medical science has no doubt advanced since they left the 23rd century, so wouldnt Starfleet Medical be able to repair whatever injury she had to a point where she would no longer need her cybernetic implant, or at the very least give her something more advanced?
 
Im kinda surprised they havent addressed Detmer's implants yet. Medical science has no doubt advanced since they left the 23rd century, so wouldnt Starfleet Medical be able to repair whatever injury she had to a point where she would no longer need her cybernetic implant, or at the very least give her something more advanced?
Why would she want that? At this point she is working through significant trauma. Giving up a part of herself would like be very difficult and she is not at the point in her healing.
 
I'm not shocked. It has nothing to really do with their current storylines and they have limited time.
 
I guess it would be a significant part of the Detmer storyline if it were done. Just like Stamets getting rid of the stigmata in his arms was a significant part of the Stamets storyline solely because it was done - even though the show had no specific need for Stamets losing those, or Adira inventing the goo interface, and it was all a big waste of that limited time. Just like any plot element or action is.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I guess it would be a significant part of the Detmer storyline if it were done. Just like Stamets getting rid of the stigmata in his arms was a significant part of the Stamets storyline solely because it was done - even though the show had no specific need for Stamets losing those, or Adira inventing the goo interface, and it was all a big waste of that limited time. Just like any plot element or action is.

Timo Saloniemi
It showed what a wunderkind Adira is rather quickly......without using much screentime. YMMV. It also started forming the bond between them organically.
 
Why would she want that? At this point she is working through significant trauma. Giving up a part of herself would like be very difficult and she is not at the point in her healing.
Because then the actress wouldn't have to spend 2-4 hours in makeup every morning.
 
People who do have electrodes in there brain? Stroke survivors, epileptic. A whole slew of informatics that she could identify with.
 
...People into facial jewelry?

Really, the "implants" are just scifiese for disfigurement, which is quite relatable. Although I have little sympathy for a show that again stoops to doing the easy and predictable, such as doing representation now that it is safely and boringly mainstream. Then again, that's Star Trek fer ya, playing it safe and behind the times...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Veterans who have been injured in combat and have lasting physical injuries.
Obviously I can't speak for them, but as someone who has a lifelong disability (permanent hearing damage from a genetic component then permanent loud tinnitus incurred from an injury in my twenties that I still hear as I type this, and even in dreams) it's infinitely more depressing for me to see by the 32nd century that these things can't be cured.

I imagine even the vets want their old life back. As a disabled person, I actually find that Detmer not having a cure in the 32nd century sends the message "Even in the far future, you're still forgotten and curing you is not a priority."

Detmer being cured sends a message to me, as a disabled person, that says "We never forgot you, we never stopped trying to undo the damage done to you that wasn't your fault, and we worked tirelessly scientifically until we found a treatment."

I can't imagine I'm the only disabled person who sees it this way. It's also a bit grating that non-disabled people (not speaking to you specifically but in general that I've seen as I don't know if you have a disability or not) presume to speak for people who actually have a disability.
 
Obviously I can't speak for them, but as someone who has a lifelong disability (permanent hearing damage plus permanent loud tinnitus that I still hear as I type this, and even in dreams) it's infinitely more depressing for me to see by the 32nd century that these things can't be cured.

I imagine even the vets want their old life back. As a disabled person, I actually find that Detmer not having a cure in the 32nd century sends the message "Even in the far future, you're still forgotten and curing you is not a priority."

Detmer being cured sends a message to me, as a disabled person, that says "We never forgot you, we never stopped trying to undo the damage done to you that wasn't your fault, and we worked tirelessly scientifically until we found a treatment."

I can't imagine I'm the only disabled person who sees it this way. It's also a bit grating that non-disabled people (not speaking to you specifically but in general that I've seen as I don't know if you have a disability or not) presume to speak for people who actually have a disability.
For me, it's more the symbolism of what she is going through in terms of a traumatic experience, and what the implants represent. Now, I might be projecting, but part of healing from trauma is making changes in your thinking around what things mean, i.e. objects, sounds, views of the self. I think Detmer can be healed; I don't think she wants to at this point in the story.
 
People who do have electrodes in there brain? Stroke survivors, epileptic. A whole slew of informatics that she could identify with.
Very tenuous. Detmer has nothing got to do with stroke survivors or epilepsy

Veterans who have been injured in combat and have lasting physical injuries.
I get this a bit but I doubt ( and I am not a war veteran so its only my guess) many veterans are sitting at home feeling represented by Detmer cyborg skull. Her possible mental trauma could be a great way to represent veterans though as look as it doesn't turn out she's a Klingon like last time
 
I get this a bit but I doubt ( and I am not a war veteran so its only my guess) many veterans are sitting at home feeling represented by Detmer cyborg skull. Her possible mental trauma could be a great way to represent veterans though as look as it doesn't turn out she's a Klingon like last time
I wouldn't underestimate it. I have seen people talking about Saru's struggling with fear helping them work through anxiety and panic disorders. There is value in it, even if it isn't strictly 1 to 1.
 
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