DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

[TREK_GOD_1]

I just feel it is a MASSIVE misread by Zaslav. He's screwing around with DC fans.... the same guys who bullied a major studio (with help from the director and a lot of twitter bots) into finishing the Snyder Cut. Why intentionally piss them off? It's putting short term money over your long term customers.

Which "DC fans" are you referring to? Any production meeting its end (or never going before cameras) on HBOMax are not exactly swelling with support from those who want to see DC properties adapted. Most are niche productions, much like the CW series, and when they go, there's no massive outcry (as in the cancellation of Supergirl, Batwoman and Legends).

Warner Brother's DCEU is dead to me. Forget about future movies. I'll just enjoy those like the Snyder films, "Wonder Woman", "Aquaman" and "Birds of Prey" and mourn the franchise's now obvious destruction.

I believe the theoretical intent (beyond primary financial concerns) is to finally streamline DC adapted content, and not have 50 different visions (many of low quality / misguided approaches) out there muddying the waters. This is where the planned theatrical films likely come into play, as they are a line of continuity with one framing voice, and if ever they feel the need to dip into a "multiverse" (e.g. the Flash movie), it will happen in that aforementioned streamlined manner, with no one ever questioning why Character-B from some syndicated series is not appearing with Big Screen Character-A, etc. Every film franchise does not need 800,000 universe and characters running around in order to function.

 

[wayoung]

I'm beginning to think, James Gunn's tweets today notwithstanding, that there's not going to be a second season of 'Peacemaker'.

Considering how this is playing out he may find out with the rest of us. Repeating WB's same day digital release announcement where they didn't tell the cast or crew (or production companies...) of the movies beforehand.

 

[Skywalker]

This is such a bummer. Not just for the DC stuff, but HBO Max might actually be the best of the big streaming services out there. It has so much good stuff on it and now it might be going away.

 

[theenglish]

Maybe this happened awhile ago, but dccomics.com redirects to dc.com. And that site now features movies and other products more prominently than the comics--which are relegated to relatively minor subsection. Not sure what that says, if anything about the future of comics--but right now, DC is probably at its least diversified selection of monthlies in my lifetime.

 

[crookeddy]

https://twitter.com/Blerdybynature/status/1554927383291072512?t=5HeXID0lk6ecYb9KQLGiXg&s=19

Very important context being provided in that thread.

 

[crookeddy]

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1554987673126948864?t=CKW9n8UiWtP5kKkUQEpbKQ&s=19

Sorry Snyder cult.

 

[wayoung]

Leslie Grace responds

lesliegrace Querida familia! On the heels of the recent news about our movie “Batgirl,” I am proud of the love, hard work and intention all of our incredible cast and tireless crew put into this film over 7 months in Scotland. I feel blessed to have worked among absolute greats and forged relationships for a lifetime in the process! To every Batgirl fan - THANK YOU for the love and belief, allowing me to take on the cape and become, as Babs said best, “my own damn hero!”
#Batgirl for life!

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...eslie-grace-responds-film-shelved-1235192379/

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...eslie-grace-responds-film-shelved-1235192379/

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Maybe this happened awhile ago, but dccomics.com redirects to dc.com. And that site now features movies and other products more prominently than the comics--which are relegated to relatively minor subsection. Not sure what that says, if anything about the future of comics--but right now, DC is probably at its least diversified selection of monthlies in my lifetime.

Over the past 50 years, comics have rarely been the strongest source of revenue for superhero properties, so its no surprise DC's books have taken a back seat to other media. This dates back to the 1970s when comics legend (and then-DC president) Carmine Infantino said licensing--specifically merchandising--made far more than the comics at any time. Toys, stationary, licensed art, apparel, audio and video media were the items which kept comic companies alive.

Even during the horrid 1990's of Marvel and Image gimmick comics barf, Marvel's merchandising brought in earnings none of their comics could on their best month. In this century, the industry has simply taken a public stand and no longer hide the fact that adaptations and merchandising are the first home of superheroes, while the comics are in a supportive position.

 

[Saul]

I'm beginning to think, James Gunn's tweets today notwithstanding, that there's not going to be a second season of 'Peacemaker'.

That would really suck. It's a shame if they lose James Gunn over this.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

Over the past 50 years, comics have rarely been the strongest source of revenue for superhero properties, so its no surprise DC's books have taken a back seat to other media. This dates back to the 1970s when comics legend (and then-DC president) Carmine Infantino said licensing--specifically merchandising--made far more than the comics at any time. Toys, stationary, licensed art, apparel, audio and video media were the items which kept comic companies alive.

Even during the horrid 1990's of Marvel and Image gimmick comics barf, Marvel's merchandising brought in earnings none of their comics could on their best month. In this century, the industry has simply taken a public stand and no longer hide the fact that adaptations and merchandising are the first home of superheroes, while the comics are in a supportive position.

Yeah, so?

If you're saying this was always the case for half a century, it's still a story that it's THIS moment they decide to hide the "comics" aspect of the brand.

People are going to defend this Titanic even when it's scraping the ocean floor, simply because Snyder touched it for a moment.

 

[theenglish]

Merch has always outsold comics. It also outsells movies. Lucas learned where the real money was to be made.

 

[The Realist]

Rolling Stone saying Supergirl is dead.

This is the worst news out of any of this (so far). I had little interest in Batgirl anyway, and HBO Max, like all streaming everything, can KMA. But I have high hopes for Sasha Calle's Supergirl, and I would have loved to see her continue beyond The Flash.

 

[wayoung]

No telling if it's tech related or merger related but WB has just indefinitely delayed season 1 of their IP mashing brawler Multiverses


https://www.pcgamer.com/multiversus...com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow

 

[DigificWriter]

Rolling Stone saying Supergirl is dead. No word on what that means for her in The Flash

https://au.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/batgirl-shelved-warner-bros-42114/

That article makes claims about the quality of the Batgirl film that have already been shown to be bogus, so I wouldn't freak out about Supergirl's future just yet.

 

[The Realist]

That article makes claims about the quality of the Batgirl film that have already been shown to be bogus, so I wouldn't freak out about Supergirl's future just yet.

As always, you're awfully trusting of studio spin. Don't you recognize PR-speak when you hear it? That the studio says Batgirl's quality wasn't an issue is meaningless in any consideration of the actual facts.

Mind you, it's entirely possible, even likely, that it was purely an accounting decision. But nothing the studio says in this situation should be assumed to bear even a nodding acquaintance with the truth.

 

[crookeddy]

That article makes claims about the quality of the Batgirl film that have already been shown to be bogus, so I wouldn't freak out about Supergirl's future just yet.

Nothing of the sort has occurred. The powers that be didn't want to completely burn bridges with anyone involved in the movie, so they said what they said. You always believe these people at face value and then act completely shocked when learning that they are lying. It's kind of hilarious how often you fall for it. Probably still believe Snyder wasn't fired lol

 

[crookeddy]

As always, you're awfully trusting of studio spin. Don't you recognize PR-speak when you hear it?

Right? Isn't it weird how he does this every. single. time? I thought he must just be playing a character, but he's been at this for years... I have no explanations.

 

[Set Harth]

Rolling Stone saying Supergirl is dead.

Well she's like 18000 years old, I should hope so!

 

[crookeddy]

You know, those fyc DVDs sent out for the max original movies are going to be pretty expensive now.

 

[DigificWriter]

As always, you're awfully trusting of studio spin. Don't you recognize PR-speak when you hear it? That the studio says Batgirl's quality wasn't an issue is meaningless in any consideration of the actual facts.

Mind you, it's entirely possible, even likely, that it was purely an accounting decision. But nothing the studio says in this situation should be assumed to bear even a nodding acquaintance with the truth.

Nothing of the sort has occurred. The powers that be didn't want to completely burn bridges with anyone involved in the movie, so they said what they said. You always believe these people at face value and then act completely shocked when learning that they are lying. It's kind of hilarious how often you fall for it. Probably still believe Snyder wasn't fired lol

Variety and Deadline are completely unconnected to Warner Bros. Discovery, and were the first outlets to debunk reports from other sources about the quality of Batgirl being a motivation behind the decision to shelve the film. They were also among the first outlets, along with The Hollywood Reporter (which is also unconnected to Warner Bros. Discovery), to shed further light on the actual motivation behind shelving the film and stress/affirm that the decision was purely driven by a change in strategy first-and-foremost and financial considerations secondly.

That is what I was referring to with the comment I made.