People must think I'm frowning all the time because I have most of those lines except for the eyes. Might explain some things.
DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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Possibly apocryphal story:
George Melly to Mick Jagger: why are you so wrinkled?
Jagger: they’re laughter lines.
Melly: nothing’s that funny.
The guy trying to do the documentary has released 3 more pictures, 2 are simply zoomed in versions of a piece of concept art showing the team in costume, and the third is a new picture of Megan Gale as Wonder Woman. I actually really like all of the costume.
It also sounds like he's having a bit more trouble getting it made than he thought he would. He says he's been getting "pushback from the studio and the creatives involved". That's a shame, because I was looking forward to getting to learn more about Mortal.
It also sounds like he's having a bit more trouble getting it made than he thought he would. He says he's been getting "pushback from the studio and the creatives involved". That's a shame, because I was looking forward to getting to learn more about Mortal.
Strange that he is surprised. If WB and the cast and crew do not give premission there will be little he can show at all.
I would be personally interested in seeing it. At the same time, I am aware that Hollywood history is filled will aborted projects that never see the light of day. Not just not filmed and released. But rarely do you see much of what was designed or created either before cancellation.
There are a lot of reasons for that. Ultimately these things are considered fairly or not failures. The studios do not want to acknowledge wasted money. Nor open up judgment of why something fans may actually like was abandoned.
In terms of actors it tends to go two ways -
With hindsight they feel they dodged a bullet they do not want to discuss.
Or disappointment that they lost out on a part they wished they had been able to do. Dwelling on missed opportunities can be painful and unproductive.
I would be personally interested in seeing it. At the same time, I am aware that Hollywood history is filled will aborted projects that never see the light of day. Not just not filmed and released. But rarely do you see much of what was designed or created either before cancellation.
There are a lot of reasons for that. Ultimately these things are considered fairly or not failures. The studios do not want to acknowledge wasted money. Nor open up judgment of why something fans may actually like was abandoned.
In terms of actors it tends to go two ways -
With hindsight they feel they dodged a bullet they do not want to discuss.
Or disappointment that they lost out on a part they wished they had been able to do. Dwelling on missed opportunities can be painful and unproductive.
Yeah, I guess I can see people not wanting to look back at something like this.
We did get the documentaries on the unproduced Dune, Fantastic Four, and Nick Cage Superman movies, so there have been movies like this before. I guess it probably just comes down to how willing everybody is to be open about it.
I have to confess, I actually like the Mortal Wonder Woman costume a little more than the DCEU one.
We did get the documentaries on the unproduced Dune, Fantastic Four, and Nick Cage Superman movies, so there have been movies like this before. I guess it probably just comes down to how willing everybody is to be open about it.
I have to confess, I actually like the Mortal Wonder Woman costume a little more than the DCEU one.
It might also be a matter of time. There were about twenty years between active pre-production on "Superman Lives" and the documentary happening, almost double that for Jodorowski's "Dune". "Justice League: Mortal" was twelve years ago. Maybe the people involved just need a few more years of distance from the project.
Or maybe we won't have to wait that long, after all.
CBR| Justice League Mortal Documentary to Resume Production, Gets New Title
CBR| Justice League Mortal Documentary to Resume Production, Gets New Title
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Well, George Miller himself isn't on board with this, so my guess is that Unicomb was talking about him. But, as he said in the announcement, maybe Miller will change his mind if he sees what the documentary is going for.
This is actually about the animated DC movies, but I don't think there's a thread for them, and I don't feel like starting one.
The upcoming Justice League Dark: Apocalypse War will be the final movie in the current animated cinematic universe. There's no word yet on if they are going to start a new, or if the movies are only going to be stand alones from now on.
The upcoming Justice League Dark: Apocalypse War will be the final movie in the current animated cinematic universe. There's no word yet on if they are going to start a new, or if the movies are only going to be stand alones from now on.
I really hope they go with something else if they do another shared universe of movies. While there have been one or two decent "New 52" style DCAU movies, they've mostly been mediocre to terrible, and the recurring voice cast (except for nathon Fillion) is also bad, so I'll be happy to see these go.
So I ran across an interesting theory about the infamous "Martha" moment (I know, I know) in Batman v Superman. Now, I've never hated the scene as much as I'm supposed to; most of my problems with the film revolve around the characterization of Superman, not the plot mechanics. I actually thought it was quite clever to connect the Marthas that way, and I bought Batman's reaction to hearing the name.
What I never quite believed was Superman saying, "Save Martha," instead of, "Save my mother." It always seemed an awkward and artificial line of dialogue, contrived for script purposes rather than being anything anyone would actually say.
But a suggestion I just encountered was that Clark knew Martha was also the name of Bruce's mother, and deliberately used it hoping it would have the very effect it did. It's not altogether implausible: The film makes explicit that Clark knows Batman is Bruce Wayne, and it wouldn't take much from there to learn of his parents' deaths and their names. And it also has the benefit of making Superman seem smarter, using brains to resolve the conflict, not just brawn.
I'm not really persuaded this was Snyder's intent; if it was, it would have been a good idea to include a brief scene earlier showing Clark researching Bruce and learning about the murder of his parents, which would have been enough to clue the audience in that "Save Martha" was no accident. Still, I might make it my headcanon going forward, especially since it makes me like Snyderman just a little more.
What I never quite believed was Superman saying, "Save Martha," instead of, "Save my mother." It always seemed an awkward and artificial line of dialogue, contrived for script purposes rather than being anything anyone would actually say.
But a suggestion I just encountered was that Clark knew Martha was also the name of Bruce's mother, and deliberately used it hoping it would have the very effect it did. It's not altogether implausible: The film makes explicit that Clark knows Batman is Bruce Wayne, and it wouldn't take much from there to learn of his parents' deaths and their names. And it also has the benefit of making Superman seem smarter, using brains to resolve the conflict, not just brawn.
I'm not really persuaded this was Snyder's intent; if it was, it would have been a good idea to include a brief scene earlier showing Clark researching Bruce and learning about the murder of his parents, which would have been enough to clue the audience in that "Save Martha" was no accident. Still, I might make it my headcanon going forward, especially since it makes me like Snyderman just a little more.
It would have worked if Clark's intention were to say "Save Martha Kent" but the last name wasn't heard by Batman or Superman wasn't able to finish the sentence...
The director’s cut makes this a tad more plausible as it includes a bit more material about Clark’s investigation of Batman (albeit not Wayne onscreen directly, as I recall). Hmm might be an excuse to rewatch the director’s cut.
My excuse was Snyder hosting a 4 year anniversary watch party this Sunday.
'twas pretty neat, it's up on youtube now.
BvS and CACW have similar moments with their billionaire heroes. Bruce reacting to hearing Martha (his mother's name) and Tony reacting to seeing his mother Maria, murdered by Bucky. Bruce is an introvert by nature. Flashing back to a deeply traumatic experience of seeing his parents murdered. Caused him to internalize, reason and reconsider what he had become at that moment against Superman. Tony is an extrovert by nature. He's got an equal amount of trauma but he puts it on display. Either through irresponsible behavior in the IM suit (Iron Man 2), women, liquor, gambling etc. Tony lost sight of the bigger picture (capturing Zemo) at that moment and instead, lashed out at Steve and Bucky. Extrovert had to let people know how he felt.
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