The end of the thread was never a real thing. Just like Axanar. 

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What do you mean by "understood"? Was it a written agreement? Is there documentation for that?When Gene Roddenberry and Desilu made an agreement in 1964, it was understood by all parties, and all subsequent parties that Star Trek would enter the Public Domain in 28 to 56 years.
You're arguing semantics, knowing full well that CBS never actually grants permission.
It has nothing to do with creativity and everything to do with the style of creativity that suits a person. Not everyone has a talent for poetry, but that doesn't make them less creative because they write prose.
Bullsh*t! A lot of creative people simply do something else. The fact that they use their creativity on something other that Star Trek fan films does not make them less creative or somehow lazy.
What you're ignoring is all the people that ended up in the Gulag. Serves them right for their lack of creativity, right?
People choose challenges. Limitations only exclude people.
I think he's referring to the state of copyright law at the time. The length of copyright has been extended retroactively numerous times.What do you mean by "understood"? Was it a written agreement? Is there documentation for that?
Well, considering I can't make a fan film without potentially risking every penny I have plus potential garnished wages, I'd say that's a pretty hard circumstance to be in. For most people, those are life destroying consequences. I don't see it as worth the risk.Again: you are the only one who is arguing CBS doesn’t allow fan films. They literally have guidelines on their website. How hard is this?
They can do both, and I don't see how one could write pages and pages of material and not be creative.Ok. Sure. But, again, a creative person doesn’t complain for pages and pages, they go and create.
Never said they were.CBS isn’t stopping you from being creative.
Many of them died because it was a totalitarian state, so what's your point. You brought up the gulags, after all, and yes, that was a potential consequence for writing something the state didn't like.Really? That’s what you’re going with? Not the fact that people lived in a totalitarian state...
I'm not demanding. I'm simply refusing to make fan films under those circumstances and expressing my opinions regarding those circumstances.In the meantime, you live here, demanding more and more to make a fan film.
The people who struggle to read your messages?Yeah. I can see who the victim is here.
I choose not, and so long as the Guidelines are CBS's last work on the matter, I will continue to choose that option.You can choose to accept the challenge of making a fan film under the guidelines. Literally. You can choose to make a fan film or not.
Much better than how Peters would handle "Dilbert".I wonder how Dilbert would handle Peters...
Oh, his attempt to greatly extend the page count of this thread. Well, I fell for it.I think he's referring to the state of copyright law at the time. The length of copyright has been extended retroactively numerous times.
Now its time for the Excelsior NX/NCC-2000!
I had posted a couple times on page 1701, and every time I was afraid I'd be the one to push the count to 1702, so it was an enormous relief when you took that bullet for me. Thanks!Oh, his attempt to greatly extend the page count of this thread. Well, I fell for it.
This is the thread that never ends.
Yes, it goes on and on my friends...
Let's face it, with the propensity of some in this corner of the board to beat a dead horse to ashes, this thread will never dry up.
Oh, man. Does that mean if we bypass that, we aim for the Defiant? NCC-74205? That's a lot of pages!
I will now decree, That on May 9th, in the year of our lord 2018, that this thread hit the magical number of 1701 pages. As such, he who shall not be named, is absolved of all his sins and shall go forth and spread peace and prosperity to the world! All donors that he has wronged will receive double his or her money back and Star Trek fan films will thus be restored to a pre-guidelines state. Amen..![]()
74656 it is.
Speak of that, the next 2000 pages of this thread will revolve around the topic of: Has there really been 70000 Starships between TOS and Voyager?? - Discuss LOL
Yes. But they were all Excelsior class. Hence 95% of the ships we saw in TNG.
Or Miranda's ! especially in DS9
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