CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

[Tomalak]

I still can't get over the fact that this whole thing started because some people felt the 2009 movie was a superficial and shallow CGI action flick, so Peters spent a decade funnelling millions of their dollars to CBS's lawyers only to produce... a superficial and shallow CGI action trailer.

The grift goes on.

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

I mean they weren't exactly wrong about that, but Axanar was never going to be that alternative.

OTOH, at least a couple of their more well known rivals actually did take a pretty good crack at that element.

 

[137th Gebirg]

To fuel the additional irony, when they originally tapped Tobias Richter to do VFX for the ships on the Axanar project (to show the era of the war before Garth's Ares was built), all of them were identical to Trek09 ship designs with the single exception of TOS-like warp engine nacelles. For the record - I don't blame Tobias for the decision to do that.

 

[Tomalak]

Even this trailer uses the 2009 warp effect.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Which really was a kind of a rip of NuBSG's "jump" tech, which was kind of a rip from ships leaving hyperspace in every Star Wars movie and series ever made.

 

[David cgc]

I wouldn't go that far. For some reason, it took the TNG-era shows a while to settle on how to show ships emerging from warp speed, even though what they ultimately settled on was simple enough, "The jump to warp, but in reverse and and with the ship pointing the other way." Remember the awful effect of the Odyssey and runabouts slowing down in "The Jem'Hadar")? The "innovation" of ST09 was just making it happen faster.

 

[Sgt_G]

Okay, so you're saying that in SFB dreadnoughts are inferior to battleships?

That makes no sense.

Remember that SFB was based off the Franz Joseph Tech Manual, and thus used the three-engine Federation Dreadnought. The C8 & C9 was the Klingon answer, and the next logical step up was the B-10. At first, it was unique, but eventually they had to design Battleships for all the empires.

Historically, the HMS Dreadnought set the standard for modern warships but was quickly outclassed by newer "Treaty Battleships". So, in that regard, it makes sense that (in SFB) Dreadnoughts are inferior to Battleships.

 

[drt]

To fuel the additional irony, when they originally tapped Tobias Richter to do VFX for the ships on the Axanar project (to show the era of the war before Garth's Ares was built), all of them were identical to Trek09 ship designs with the single exception of TOS-like warp engine nacelles. For the record - I don't blame Tobias for the decision to do that.

Not only the designs, but a lot of the actual scenes Richter stuck them in were lifted from the Abrams films, including a giant starship crashing into a city.

Although from what i remember from reading the script, it seemed more that Peters was making a BSG fan film set in the Trek universe.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Although from what i remember from reading the script, it seemed more that Peters was making a BSG fan film set in the Trek universe.

How does that work???

 

[137th Gebirg]

He started with the cinema verite shakey-cam with a lot of pew-pew and took it from there…

 

[Sketcher]

Battlestar Trektica has been done as a completed fan film already.

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[Shamrock Holmes]

Remember that SFB was based off the Franz Joseph Tech Manual, and thus used the three-engine Federation Dreadnought.

Which was kinda junk terminology-wise, it should have been the Federation-class Battleship instead.

Historically, the HMS Dreadnought set the standard for modern warships but was quickly outclassed by newer "Treaty Battleships". So, in that regard, it makes sense that (in SFB) Dreadnoughts are inferior to Battleships.

And the Dreadnought was itself a Battleship, so it's effectively doubling down on the stupidity.

Though I agree with the broad thrust of the material absent of the use of the designation of "dreadnought".

 

[Tomalak]

Battlestar Trektica has been done as a completed fan film already.

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Fans are regularly churning out legitimate fan films all the time. This is how you know Axanar is simply a grift.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I wonder what ever happened to the I.M.P.S. series. That thing was positively inspired - the way fan films should be done (IMO). Great writing and humor, great VFX, music, everything. They had one or two more shorts to go before wrapping up and then nothing.

 

[Sgt_G]

the Dreadnought was itself a Battleship

Technically true, but regardless.... back to my original point, nowhere in Trek canon or even non-canon was the D-7 ever called a Dreadnought, let alone a "Leviathan". Peters once said he was using FASA as his basis for history of the Four Years War tech and tactics. If true, why then make such a silly error??

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

Peters once said he was using FASA as his basis for history of the Four Years War tech and tactics. If true, why then make such a silly error??

Rule of Cool?

 

[David cgc]

It does feel more like a historical allusion to the HMS Dreadnought as a game-changing advance in naval technology than a reference to its technical classification.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I care naught.

 

[Firebird]

Although from what i remember from reading the script, it seemed more that Peters was making a BSG fan film set in the Trek universe.

If only that dipshit Peters just made it a BSG fanfilm, then we would've been spared all the fallout from his unending hubris.

Then again, it probably needed to happen in some way to stop the fanfilm arms race that was going on ten or so years ago.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Every time I see that number I think, no it hasn’t been that long!

And then it hits me… Yes, it bloody well has been that long.