Burning CD's???

[Gil T.Azell]

OK I'm still kind of new to this I'm making a CD for a friend but the blank I insert wont burn, I keep get "insert a Blank CD" , the one I put in is NEW!
any help
also I know CD can only fit 80 mins on them so How come one of the ones I copied has 87 mins on it.
and how can I make a Data CD with MP3's so it will play in my truck with a whole lot of songs?
Need the Kiss system on some of this,
Thanks in advance, Bill

 

[thestrangequark]

Firstly, are you on a pc or a mac? What application are you using to manage your music?

 

[Gil T.Azell]

Firstly, are you on a pc or a mac? What application are you using to manage your music?

PC trying to do it with Media player, the blank says it will hold 4.7 GB 120 Min , (Music/Movie/Data) should I try burning a data CD in stead of a Music CD

 

[thestrangequark]

^Well, you could burn it as either, but not all cd players will play mp3's. You mentioned you wanted to play it in your truck -- are you certain your truck's player will play a data cd?

 

[Gil T.Azell]

^Well, you could burn it as either, but not all cd players will play mp3's. You mentioned you wanted to play it in your truck -- are you certain your truck's player will play a data cd?

It's played CD I've made before I want to know how a CD can contain 87 mins of song but I cant burn one that lone they will only hold 80 mins, are studio CD different?

 

[Owain Taggart]

It could be, if the CD also contains other data on it. Some CDs are enhanced and you don't need the enhanced stuff if you're playing it elsewhere other than your computer.

Also, you do need to make sure to tell it you're burning an audio CD rather than a data CD.

 

[Sparky]

Firstly, are you on a pc or a mac? What application are you using to manage your music?

PC trying to do it with Media player, the blank says it will hold 4.7 GB 120 Min , (Music/Movie/Data) should I try burning a data CD in stead of a Music CD

4.7GB? It sounds like you put in a recordable DVD into the drive instead of a CD. That's probably why the program keeps telling you to insert a blank CD.

 

[Gil T.Azell]

Firstly, are you on a pc or a mac? What application are you using to manage your music?

PC trying to do it with Media player, the blank says it will hold 4.7 GB 120 Min , (Music/Movie/Data) should I try burning a data CD in stead of a Music CD

4.7GB? It sounds like you put in a recordable DVD into the drive instead of a CD. That's probably why the program keeps telling you to insert a blank CD.

Why would it say you can put music on it?
any how must be a way make a music one I've never seen a cd that will take over 80 mins, yet a store bought one holds 87 mins of music? thats what is puzzling I guess I'm just

 

[RoJoHen]

I'm sure a music company can make a longer CD if they want for a single album. But for blank CDs, they have to make a standard size. 80 minutes is that size.

 

[Sparky]

Why would it say you can put music on it?

The 120 minutes label on the DVD is referring to the amount of DVD format MPEG2 video can be put on the disc, not CD format audio.

 

[Australis]

Okay, a few things:

-- a recordable DVD can't make an audio CD.

-- does your truck player play mp3s, or was it an audio CD you recorded?

-- there used to be a CD format that would allow extra music on an audio CD, but it ain't much, iirc. You'll just have to burn 2 CDs.

-- see if you can get Nero Burning ROM as a burning tool instead, it's very good.

 

[Jadzia]

You have a DVD-R disc. You could fit several hundred mp3 files onto that one disc, but a CD player won't be able to read it.

DVD drives use a different colour laser. The infra red laser used in CD drives cannot see the data contained on a DVD.

Back in 1980, the standard length of a CD was set at 74 minutes. In the 1990s, we extended that to 80 minutes. It's possible to try and squash more data onto the disc than it is designed for. This is called overburning. This generally isn't recommended because the disc won't work with all players.

If you have an audio CD with 87 minutes of audio, then the manufacturer has broken the Red Book standards, meaning it may not work with all players, and it would be illegal for the disc to have this logo...

For writing your own CD-R, ImgBurn is a nice simple free cd writing software. http://www.imgburn.com/

 

[LitmusDragon]

I'll add a minor clarification to whats already been said: CD media is called a CD-R and DVD media is called DVD-R. You have a DVD-R, what you need is a CD-R.

 

[Owain Taggart]

You have a DVD-R disc. You could fit several hundred mp3 files onto that one disc, but a CD player won't be able to read it.

DVD drives use a different colour laser. The infra red laser used in CD drives cannot see the data contained on a DVD.

Back in 1980, the standard length of a CD was set at 74 minutes. In the 1990s, we extended that to 80 minutes. It's possible to try and squash more data onto the disc than it is designed for. This is called overburning. This generally isn't recommended because the disc won't work with all players.

If you have an audio CD with 87 minutes of audio, then the manufacturer has broken the Red Book standards, meaning it may not work with all players, and it would be illegal for the disc to have this logo...

For writing your own CD-R, ImgBurn is a nice simple free cd writing software. http://www.imgburn.com/

Very good point. I hadn't thought of that. Of course, whoever's mastering the disc probably used some sort of compression to get it up to 84 minutes. And there's a lot of audio compression going on these days. A bit too much, as the audio quality often suffers.

 

[trekkiedane]

-- see if you can get Nero Burning ROM as a burning tool instead, it's very good.

I've had good results using the free InfraRecorder.

 

[Roshi]

Why would you burn CD? Have you found out she was a witch?

 

[Australis]

Well, I've had my suspicions... she floats you know...

 

[Jadzia]

Very good point. I hadn't thought of that. Of course, whoever's mastering the disc probably used some sort of compression to get it up to 84 minutes. And there's a lot of audio compression going on these days. A bit too much, as the audio quality often suffers.

An audio CD won't have any compression, because ordinary CD players aren't required to have any software to do decompression.

What they may use is the Blue Book Standard, which is a disc with two sessions. The first session is like an audio CD. The second session is like a CD-ROM, which will only work on computers or with players that have MP3 decoding ability.

This is the Blue Book logo...

Typically, about 60 minutes of audio will be present in the first session, but upto maybe 120 minutes of MP3 audio in the second session. Only the first session will be readable on all CD players.

Some manufacturers have chosen to include playback software and stealthy monitoring/DRM software in the CD-ROM portion of the disc. I seem to remember reading that the software is very similar to that used in World of Warcraft to detect exploits, which was quite controversial at the time.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Very good point. I hadn't thought of that. Of course, whoever's mastering the disc probably used some sort of compression to get it up to 84 minutes. And there's a lot of audio compression going on these days. A bit too much, as the audio quality often suffers.

An audio CD won't have any compression, because ordinary CD players aren't required to have any software to do decompression.

I meant on the studio side before a CD becomes mastered. There is a lot of audio out there that is compressed, and you can tell the difference due to the clipping, and there's hardly any way to fix it when that happens. Quality suffers.