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News Bill and Ted Face the Music Officially Announced

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It's been announced that development has officially begun on Bill and Ted Face The Music, the third film in the cult classic Bill and Ted franchise, following 1991's Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.
Here's IGN's description of the movie:
The story follows the titular duo, who are now middle age and dealing with real-life family responsibilities, still trying to write the greatest song ever made. However, a visitor from the future suddenly warns Bill and Ted that only their song can save the universe.

With the future of the world in their hands Bill and Ted, with the help of their daughters, new historical figures, and music legends, set out on an adventure to find the song that will set their world right.
Keanu Reeves will be returning as Theodore "Ted" Logan, along with Alex Winter as Bill S. Preston Esq., and the first two movies' writers Chris Matheson and Ed Solomon has already written a script. This time directing duties will be handled by Galaxy Quest and Red 2's Dead Parisot.
 
I've never really wanted a sequel, because if Bill & Ted still haven't saved the world after 30 years, it negates the optimistic ending of the second film. I'd prefer to believe that in their universe, the age of the Great Ones has already come and the world is full of people being excellent to each other and partying on, dudes.

Then again, if it's from the original writers -- plus the director of Galaxy Quest -- then hopefully they can make it work.
 
So, I wonder who will play the person from the future that comes to see Bill and Ted, since Carlin is dead? Mentioned in another news article.


I hope David Newman signs to score this (assuming he's asked). His scores for the two films are -- in my personal opinion -- amongst his best work.
 
Without George Carlin, there's no point. Pass.

From what I remember from their interviews about the script over the years, Carlin's passing (and Rufus's passing in-universe) is a major plot point and casts a long shadow on Bill and Ted.

The concept of the movie is that, following Rufus's passing, Bill and Ted feel as though they've failed their friend since they're now middle-aged and they've yet to write the song that brings about his future utopia.
 
That would be wonderful, if it really did that.

I hold out hope with each new piece about this film, as opposed to other franchises where I hear info' on their upcoming films, I just lose interest some or completely (here's looking at you "Predator", "Terminator", and "Men in Black"...).
 
I guess that makes sense but I still don't see the point of the film without Carlin. He's the reason why I ever watched the first film.
 
I've never really wanted a sequel, because if Bill & Ted still haven't saved the world after 30 years, it negates the optimistic ending of the second film.

The story might start like that and then have someone go back in time and undo their excellent world!
 
Without George Carlin, there's no point. Pass.

Have you ever seen any pictures or video of what Carlin was like before he embraced the hippie rebel image in the late 60's? The only thing remotely recognizable about him is the voice. So I can't help but think - what would it be like for Bill and Ted to meet that 'Rufus' (in the form of a young up-and-coming comedian able to mimic Carlin's voice) and help him on the road to becoming that wise ubercool mentor they'll know by mentoring him? Adapt a bit of Carlin's own personal arc in life and apply it to the young Rufus? That, I think, would honor the man and keep Rufus alive in the story.
 
I forgot that George Carlin died, it definitely is a big loss, but I still think the movie could be good. What @OCD Geek posted would be a good way to work his death into the movie's story.
 
I wonder if Jim Martin will take time off from pumpkin growing to write all the guitar riffs
 
Was talking to a friend about this yesterday, and he brought up Dumb and Dumber To, and made a comparison between that movie and this. I think there are key differences between the two franchises that give me a little more optimism for this new Bill & Ted film.

Dumb and Dumber was a minor comedy classic (maybe I don't need to qualify that assessment, and just call it a classic). The Farrelly brothers, Jeff Daniels, and Jim Carrey all had something to prove on that first film, and they delivered a series of hysterically-funny sequences and gags. That movie was lightning in a bottle.

The sequel was an obvious paycheck-gig for all concerned: the brothers had been superseded by Judd Apatow in mainstream comedy and hadn't had a major hit in over a decade, Daniels was looking for a sweet paycheck as his TV series was coming to a close, and Carrey could only get the kind of money he was paid at his '90s height by abandoning his principles and doing a sequel. The film was easily forgotten, and Carrey hasn't made a mainstream film since.

On the other hand, the third Bill & Ted film isn't a film Reeves has to make. He's doing fine for a longtime movie star his age: he's done pretty well commercially (and arguably creatively) with the John Wick films, and he seems to have avoided the .100 batting average of a latter-day Cusack or Cage. And he isn't doing it because he has to return to the spotlight: if that was the case, he wouldn't have turned down the Jude Law-role in Captain Marvel.

Reeves is making this third film because he wants to make it. And we want him to. Reeves also gives it a lot more credibility, given his willingness to take chances over his career (taking on The Matrix, turning down Speed 2, playing Siddhartha for Bertolucci, doing a gay contemporary Shakespeare-film for Gus Van Sant).

Here's the big kicker: the Bill & Ted films aren't comedy classics in the way that a Dumb and Dumber arguably is. If you were to push me, I'd say they are favorites, rather than classics (with only Sadler's performance and those very funny Seventh Seal-scenes pushing the series into something close to brilliant). So it doesn't feel like going over sacred ground like the Farrelly brothers did.

The science-fiction concept also lends itself to a sequel in the way that Dumb and Dumber doesn't. In short, there's potential for this project, and I'm anticipating the return of characters that I liked in a story that seems promising. Reeves is as hot as he's ever been with the Wick films, so for him to agree to this means there must be something very interesting in the script.
 
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Without George Carlin, there's no point. Pass.
Carlin's presence in these films is rather grossly exaggerated by fans, given his tiny screentime -- he's only in a few key scenes in the first one, and only in two brief scenes in the second, and isn't really all that important as far as Bogus Journey's overall storyline is concerned. By the end of the second movie, the boys are standing pretty much on their own two feet without Rufus's guidance.
 
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Carlin's presence in these films is rather grossly exaggerated by fans, given his tiny screentime -- he's only in a few key scenes in the first one, and only in two scenes in the second, and isn't really all that important as far as Bogus Journey's overall storyline is concerned. By the end of the second movie, the boys are standing pretty much on their own two feet without Rufus's guidance.

Yeah, Rufus is more a catalyst than a lead. Most of the plot of both films happens because B&T don't have Rufus to guide them and have to figure things out for themselves and gather makeshift support teams along the way.

I think the B&T films are actually the first things I ever saw Carlin in where I was aware of his name (he'd done a couple of earlier sitcom appearances I'd probably seen, but I didn't remember him from them). They're still the main things I know him from other than Shining Time Station and Dogma. His fame in comedy circles was something I learned about at second hand from family members.
 
Station!

I'm delighted this is getting made. I never imagined a third film would happen. Having Bill and Ted back in mainstream culture is long overdue.
 
The sequel was an obvious paycheck-gig for all concerned: the brothers had been superseded by Judd Apatow in mainstream comedy and hadn't had a major hit in over a decade, Daniels was looking for a sweet paycheck as his TV series was coming to a close, and Carrey could only get the kind of money he was paid at his '90s height by abandoning his principles and doing a sequel. The film was easily forgotten, and Carrey hasn't made a mainstream film since.

Don't forget, there was also a prequel of sorts, not starring either Jeff Daniels or Jim Carrey.

Part of me wants to see a sequel, but part of me wonders if maybe the time won't be so kind. It would have made more sense had they made a sequel in the mid-to-late nineties.
 
I wonder who they'll get to play their daughters? I'm assuming the girls from the first two movies are their mothers, so I wonder if we'll see them again too? I just checked and they were played by different actresses in each movie, so I don't know how they'd want to handle bringing them back.
 
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