Biggest insulting slap-in-the-face episode for fans?
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Not really, Voy. got sold to syndication because of it, DS9 didn't.
Networks also make back money when shows are sold into syndication. Syndication doesn't buy or like buying serialized shows because viewers of syndicatad retrun shows don't tune in on a daily basis. Due to that syndiction can show eps. out of order and the casual viewer doesn't miss the basic "theme" of the show. This is why most comedy shows are bought by syndicated networks.
Also syndication gives shows a "second life" because it allows those that missed it or what to rewatch it that second chance. DS9 didn't get bought into syndication, so if you didn't watch it the first time, you were shit out of luck and cheated DS9 out of finding a new audience.
So in the long run, Voy. made it's money back for Paramount and DS9 didn't as far as syndication goes.
What question is that? If you're talking about "Which major network owns SPIKE?", then the answer (to my knowledge) is none of them. It's just a cable station. However, it is also irrelevant. DS9 was made by a studio (Paramount), so all that matters is if the studio makes money on the property.
Neither VOY nor DS9 got reruns on a major network after they ended their runs, so I'm not seeing how being episodic really helped VOY in reruns.
Neither VOY nor DS9 got reruns on a major network after they ended their runs, so I'm not seeing how being episodic really helped VOY in reruns.
Not necesarily. DS9's been in syndication here since it ended, either on terrestrial network broadcast, satellite/cable, or both. A quick glance around the net shows that it's still in syndication elsewhere around the world.
The syndication issue's an interesting one though. DS9's absence (for the most part) from the syndicated re-run market probably goes some way to factoring into DS9's better DVD sales performance. No need to buy the DVDs if you can just catch it on TV. Although again, it doesn't account for its superior sales over here.
I've got all the original first run ratings here somewhere for DS9 and Voyager, I'll have to dig them out. I'd be interested to see what the aggregated difference was between the two shows in terms of viewership. From memory, I seem to recall that DS9 carried about a million more per episode, but I'd have to check that.
Then consider yourself very lucky. I'm in the NYC tri-State area, that is a HUGE market for networks in terms of demographics, it's also home to two of the 3 major networks. DS9 was never(or I should barely) shown in syndication in this area.(They only showed 10 eps. tops, none of which connected with any of the story arc's) They quickly replaced DS9 with repeats (again) of TNG. So if you missed DS9 in my area, then you were fucked.
This is also the reason why I was asking what major network owns SPIKE. For example, USA network is owned by ABC and FX is owned by FOX.
^^ Probably why it cost me a fortune in VHS and subsequently DVDs.
In terms of terrestrial airings, it's a shame that the Beeb eventually decided that it had had enough of Star Trek. Did they ever get around to finishing airing Voyager? I think DS9 got rather lucky in that it had pretty much wrapped by the time the Beeb had their change of attitude towards the old 6pm midweek spots.
In terms of terrestrial airings, it's a shame that the Beeb eventually decided that it had had enough of Star Trek. Did they ever get around to finishing airing Voyager? I think DS9 got rather lucky in that it had pretty much wrapped by the time the Beeb had their change of attitude towards the old 6pm midweek spots.
1. Fury - That episode has been the biggest head-scratching moment I have ever seen in Trek. Erasing her from the series just to itroduce 7 of 9 wasn't my bag, baby. I actually liked Kes and Jennifer Lien's acting. But to have her return as a hyper angry punk is a WTF for me! I just didn't get it.
2. These are the Voyages - All I can do is just shake my head. And keep shaking it in disbelief. It was the ugly end to a series that flew in the face of Trek history with every episode. The cast of Enterprise was an especially gifted cast of actors. Give or take a few. I've said it many times before - "These Are the Voyages" was a miscarrige of creative freedom.
3. Endgame - In order to wrap up the show, the writers just pulled out a goddamned convienant solution for everyone. And THE very second Voyager gets back to Earth, what caps off the entire 7 season run of the show was the face of Tom Paris' father and then the view of Earth. Once again, another miscarrige of creative freedom.
2. These are the Voyages - All I can do is just shake my head. And keep shaking it in disbelief. It was the ugly end to a series that flew in the face of Trek history with every episode. The cast of Enterprise was an especially gifted cast of actors. Give or take a few. I've said it many times before - "These Are the Voyages" was a miscarrige of creative freedom.
3. Endgame - In order to wrap up the show, the writers just pulled out a goddamned convienant solution for everyone. And THE very second Voyager gets back to Earth, what caps off the entire 7 season run of the show was the face of Tom Paris' father and then the view of Earth. Once again, another miscarrige of creative freedom.
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