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Spoilers Avatar: The Last Airbender - Netflix Live Action Version

It's a fictional story, so everything goes!

I like Kyoshi village story the most. I was surprised how good it looked in the live action adaption.
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Princess Azula on the other hand had really good written story, but the actress didn't look the part she was playing. Not menacning enough.
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The rest of the cast were really good picks aspecially Bumi:
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Together with One Piece, this are the best adaptions i have seen to date. Netflix really did it!

Now i am super excited to see their take on 3-Body Problem adaption next month.
Azula's actress just didn't look menacing enough. Its def a tough ask for the age you are intending the character to be... But she just gives Kamala/Miss Marvel feeling. Not a deranged uber-badass.
 
I don’t remember Azula. Is she a baddie throughout or does she eventually become friendly like Zuko?
 
Having finished it and not having watched/rewatched the animated show in a long time there were still some changes that stood out and I'm not sure the reasoning

Well, let's see...


Aang picks up waterbending in the first season and actually excels faster than Katara. He also learns a it of firebending and it scares him so he stops.

Now there reasonably could make a point of no time to learn firebending in how the first season of the animation was condensed/retold here. But it really makes no sense Aang who feels so guilty about "failing" as the Avatar would just do NOTHING while Katara on the most basic of levels learns waterbending from her scroll.

It would have made way more sense for Aang to also start at that point to practice waterbending. Now if the producers felt like the original diminished Katara too much from her early struggles to learn they could have simply ditched that aspect. But Aang not trying to learn at all seems really out of place.

That was odd to me too. Thinking about it now, I suspect it's because they shifted the focus toward the idea of Aang depending on his friends rather than being a lone Avatar. They played up that theme throughout the season, with his past lives insisting he had to go it alone and Aang realizing that it was his friends that gave him his strength. So the emphasis was less on learning bending and more on that philosophical clash with his predecessors.

Relatedly, since they played up his past-life communions so much more, that shifted the focus more toward the spiritual side and the legacy of being the Avatar, as opposed to the bending itself.


In terms of Katara's massive skill power-up/mastery it seems way too rushed. In terms of how the live show is presented it feels like she gets there in a couple of weeks.

I don't disagree, but I see that a consequence of the short season length rather than a flaw in the concept. Recall that there was a time jump halfway through the season, with reference to the Gaang having adventures we hadn't seen. So there was more time for Katara to study than we were shown. Also, getting the waterbending scroll from Gran-Gran right off the bat justified her faster learning curve. That, plus it showed that Aang was a good teacher for Katara, as opposed to Katara being a teacher for Aang.

There was also the fact mentioned in the climactic episodes, that Katara had actual real-world combat experience while the Northerners only had theory. Katara learned fast because she had to, because she was fighting for her life and her friends' lives. And because she traveled widely and observed other bending styles that she could learn from, like the way she innovated the ice-disk technique based on watching Bumi's Earthbending. That adds to the theme of people from different Nations learning from each other, the way friendship with others makes us stronger than isolation and separation.

As to the conclusion I kinda felt like it had more emotional impact in the animated show. I think Yue's screen time isn't massively different, but having watched it play out over three 25m episodes originally kinda made her feel like more of a connection than just one Netflix episode.

Setting up Yue earlier as the fox spirit also helped deepen her role. At first I thought that giving the kitsune only three tails was a budgetary choice to save on animation, but it turned out to be a reflection of Yue's three-tailed hairstyle. Also it indicated her youth, since more tails on a kitsune (up to the maximum of nine) denote more age and wisdom.
 
All done now. Very impressive -- my one regret is that it wasn't 2-4 episodes longer. It would've been nice to spend more time with the Gaang and take more time for character development and side adventures.

The last two are pretty faithful to the concluding 3-parter of season 1, but with a few changes. Aang meets Avatar Kuruk much earlier than in the animated canon, and Kuruk's backstory draws on the F.C. Yee Kyoshi novels. Pakku's sexism toward Katara is still there, but without the backstory with Gran-Gran to justify his bitterness. Interesting change, too, that Katara is basically her own master now rather than needing to learn from Pakku, though I think maybe that's a bit hard to buy.

Another big addition is Zhao's gloating speech to Zuko about how all that's happened between them was really about Azula -- that Ozai was using Zuko to motivate Azula, and that Azula was the one guiding Zhao all along. Plus we get a big payoff with Azula being the one to conquer Omashu.

I really, really hope they renew this show and get it back into production before the young actors get too much older. There's going to have to be a sizeable time jump before season 2.
When the directly quote the show it really stands out to me. Like when Iroh warns Zhao about harming the moon spirit, his line and Zhao's response was lifted right from the animated series
 
When the directly quote the show it really stands out to me. Like when Iroh warns Zhao about harming the moon spirit, his line and Zhao's response was lifted right from the animated series

Whereas I tended to be more impressed by the new additions, the bits that I didn't already know and expect, that added fresh new angles and textures. Though I wasn't immune to the thrill of seeing a familiar moment recreated.
 
Despite already being smack-dab in the middle of a Division Adventure 2020 watch-through, I decided to watch the first episode of the show so that I could watch some reaction videos (and to kill time before the WWE aired their Elimination Chamber event from Perth, Australia early this morning), and while I still have issues with the age-to-characterization ratio of the kid characters, I did like the writing, design, and overall narrative structure of the story.

Immediately delving into Aang's history and disappearance was an important decision in terms of hooking in general audiences who aren't/weren't already fans of the franchise and for immediately endearing viewers to him as a character (although I personally would've used captions to indicate that we'd skipped ahead 100 years after Aang crashed into the water and went all Avatar State instead of leaving that revelation for expository dialogue).

I don't remember if the Avatar State was this uncontrollable in the animated series, but if it wasn't, I like the change because it adds tension and a real sense of danger to things instead of the Avatar State just being this ultra-power mode that Aang ought to just be dipping into constantly.

As I said at the start, I still don't think they cast actors who match the ages of the kid characters that they're playing, but there were still things that I liked about what said actors gave us, namely Dallas Liu's interpretation of Zuko's obsession, Gordon's conveyance of Aang's quick shift from selfishness to selflessness, and Kiawentiio's conveyance of Katara wanting to step up and be a warrior. I still hate Sokka, though, so the actor playing him at least got that right.

I don't know how quickly I'll get through the show since I want to watch reaction videos about each episode, but I did overall like the premiere and most of the adaptational choices that have been made thus far.
 
Those poor Americans. Having to stay up late to watch the event. I feel so sorry for you. :)

I could've gone to sleep and woke up at 2 AM to watch the event, but deliberately chose to pull an all-nighter just because I could.

On-topic, both of the ATLA fan reaction videos I've watched (or am currently watching, as the case may be) mentioned how much more intense and graphic the depiction of what fire actually does to the body is here, that it's not something that they were really expecting, and how it makes the live-action not as all-ages-friendly as the animation was, but , honestly, I think such sentiments underestimate just how much kids can handle when it comes to violence and/or horror.
 
Watched episode 2 today, and I it was just as good as the first one. I don't remember the episode that well, but from what I do remember they did a pretty good job of hitting the major plot points from what I do remember. I didn't realize Tamlyn Tomita was in this, so her popping up as Suki's mom was a nice surprise.
I'm not totally sold on Ken Leung as Zhao yet, he's a good actor, but I would have expected Zhao to be a lot more intense and intimidating, and IMO at least, Leung really wasn't either of those things here.
Is the whole thing with Kyoshi showing Aang the Fire Nation's attack on the Northern Water Tribe new? I don't remember them having any reason to go there other than wanting to train in the animated series.
 
I'm not totally sold on Ken Leung as Zhao yet, he's a good actor, but I would have expected Zhao to be a lot more intense and intimidating, and IMO at least, Leung really wasn't either of those things here.

They do take a different approach to Zhao here, but it makes sense in the context of some of their other adjustments.


Is the whole thing with Kyoshi showing Aang the Fire Nation's attack on the Northern Water Tribe new? I don't remember them having any reason to go there other than wanting to train in the animated series.

Yeah, it's new.
They couldn't use Sozin's Comet as the ticking clock, because the cast's aging from season to season requires them to be loose about the time frame. So they came up with another plot driver to replace it.

Which is better than the Shyamalan movie; as I think I mentioned a while back, the problem with the visions there is that the Dragon Spirit didn't tell Aang anything except that he needed to do exactly what he was already doing anyway, making the visions utterly pointless.
 
ooofff....the fanbase online are tearing this show apart. I don't get it. I enjoyed it. But so much hate piling on for this show, its disheartening.
 
"The online fanbase" is never happy about anything. They get mad when things like this aren't exactly like what they're adapting, but then if they were to do an exact recreation of the source material in whatever the new form is, they'd be mad they weren't more creative and didn't make changes.
 
ooofff....the fanbase online are tearing this show apart. I don't get it. I enjoyed it. But so much hate piling on for this show, its disheartening.

What places are you hanging out where fans aren't responding positively?

Because the reactions I've been seeing from ATLA die-hards are very positive.
 
ooofff....the fanbase online are tearing this show apart. I don't get it. I enjoyed it. But so much hate piling on for this show, its disheartening.

It's not the entire fanbase; as always, it's just a closed-minded minority that pretends it speaks for everyone and shouts loudly enough to drown out everyone else. I'm sure Netflix is paying attention to actual viewership figures instead of that predictable, meaningless noise. And I fully intend to rewatch the season before too long, so I'll be doing my part.
 
What places are you hanging out where fans aren't responding positively?

Because the reactions I've been seeing from ATLA die-hards are very positive.

Reddit, youtube, twitter...

Hell even on Rotten tomatoes, it is now rated as "rotten" after the critic reviews have come in. So it seems critics also hated it.

Please tell me these sites where its positive, it would be nice to read positive discourses
 
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