Art Project: Re-Imagined Star Trek Early Years

[CuttingEdge100]

Tarek71,

Possible, but considering how the drive is a very basic design (the first manned ship of it's type) I don't know if they'd be advanced enough to have fancy stuff like foldable rings...


Sojourner,

Well the idea was kind of like a mix between the Alcubierre Drive and the Bias Drive. Which is the closest to the Star Trek Warp Drive.


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BTW: I'm not sure if this would work in real life and I've heard of problems with the logistics of the Alcubierre Drive...

 

[sojourner]

yea, was just trying to help with the link since earlier in the thread you mentioned the induction ring design.

 

[CuttingEdge100]

Sojourner,

Thank you for the picture...


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[CuttingEdge100]

I wonder what size such a vessel should be?

 

[CuttingEdge100]

I'm thinking 60 to 100 feet?

 

[CuttingEdge100]

I was thinking of a 65-meter design. Quite large it might sound, but when you consider an F-15 is 64 feet it's only 3.3 times as long and has rocket engines in the front and back, a fusion reactor and such, and even a corridor or crawlspace to get in and out of the ship. It also would fit with the shape I came up with and could accomodate a reasonable-sized cockpit.

Opinions?

 

[Tarek71]

I was thinking of a 65-meter design. Quite large it might sound, but when you consider an F-15 is 64 feet it's only 3.3 times as long and has rocket engines in the front and back, a fusion reactor and such, and even a corridor or crawlspace to get in and out of the ship. It also would fit with the shape I came up with and could accomodate a reasonable-sized cockpit.

Opinions?

I dont have any problem with it being larger. You could even make it bigger than you propose here, but with increasing size it becomes even less likely that this could have been done by Cochrane, Lily and his small mission control staff. Some larger support apparatus should have existed for this whole project. Of course, even as it was it probably wasnt very realistic that this could have been done under the conditions shown in First Contact. Nevertheless some sense that this was a major effort should be shown.

As it is, it was made to seem not all that unlike a small group of enthusiasts making some special race car or unconventional private aircraft. A warp ship seems like it would be substantially more involved than that. And if you make a larger one, even more so.

 

[CuttingEdge100]

Well, truthfully as I said I'm re-imagining things...

One thing I was planning on changing was that the Phoenix would not be the first vessel to break warp 1. It would be the first manned vessel to break warp 1. The idea has to do with a discrepancy between older ST data that lists the first warp flight as being in 2061, and FC data that lists it as being in 2063. Also, it would be far easier to shoot a few unmanned test vehicles up into space first prior to a manned mission.

The other thing would be that Cochrane would need a larger staff. It wouldn't have to be the largest staff in the whole world, but it wouldn't be the tiniest either and certainly wouldn't be a few people.


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[CuttingEdge100]

Sound good?

 

[CuttingEdge100]

If anybody wishes to offer any more data regarding the NuPhoenix design, I'd be glad to hear it...

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

It's got a rockin' stereo system.

 

[CuttingEdge100]

Herkimer Jitty,

Hahaha, very true