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American Horror Story (Season 4): Freak Show

I liked Season 1, and got turned off quickly in Season 2. Did it get better again after that?

I was so in love with season 1 I thought there was no way I was going to like season 2 as much. After the first couple of episodes of the second season I had convinced myself that I was right. Now that I have finished season 2 I've decided that it's my favorite season so far. I'd say finish it if you can because early on I was feeling the same way as you.
 
I liked Season 1, and got turned off quickly in Season 2. Did it get better again after that?

I was so in love with season 1 I thought there was no way I was going to like season 2 as much. After the first couple of episodes of the second season I had convinced myself that I was right. Now that I have finished season 2 I've decided that it's my favorite season so far. I'd say finish it if you can because early on I was feeling the same way as you.

hmm... ok, maybe I'll give it another try.
 
Sarah Paulson has a nice voice. I liked her rendition of Fiona Apple's "Criminal" much better than Jessica Lange's David Bowie song last week. Though I have to say, I don't know why they keep playing songs that weren't recorded in the 1950s or earlier.
 
Here ya go:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/09/ahs-freak-show-premiere-ryan-murphy

Elsa sings Bowie’s “Life on Mars” at the end. So there will be modern music this season?
Well we don’t do a lot of them this season. Maybe we only have five numbers. But as we started writing it, I thought I just don’t want to do ‘50s music and neither did Jessica. So we thought long and hard about that. I was very inspired with Baz Luhrmann. I love what he does with his movies like Great Gatsby and Moulin Rouge where you don’t play period stuff, you do stuff from all eras that fit the story. So we decided we only were going to highlight musical artists who at some point in their career had identified themselves as feeling like freaks or misfits or outcasts, which our people are going through. That’s why we do David Bowie, Fiona Apple, Lana Del Rey, Kurt Cobain. We do people who sort of have the same feelings as our characters do.
 
I find this show frustrating. I've seen every episode, but the lack of logic and cohesion really got to me last season. I've never seen a show that consistently threw away good will for shock value so often. They'll have a development and then undo it the very next episode. They'll kill a character only to resurrect them only to kill them again. How can you care at that point? Twists are cool, but once you do them too often, they become a gimmick. You can't invest anymore.

1. Did I miss something or did they not rape that poor girl?
2. The cops didn't get their killer and know that so why'd they ever bother?

That's Grace Gummer, who has been in Frances Ha, The Newsroom, and some other recognizable stuff. She was in an episode last season, though I don't remember who she played exactly.

She's also Meryl Streep's daughter.
 
Does anyone know what accent Kathy Bates is trying to do this season? It sounds like a gutter mix of Appalachia, Boston and some Midwest. I get the impression she's having a rough time of it. Some folks out there on teh Interwebz think it's Philadelphia. I'm thinking it might be Pittsburgh, based on this article about the ugliest-sounding accent. I usually have a fairly good ear for American accents, and I've met many people from both those Pennsylvania towns, and they don't sound like that. It mystifies me.

I, too, feel somewhat distracted by the anachronistic songs (and a mosh pit!) but it's holding my interest. I think Jessica Lang's musical number in the first one was designed to look horrid. As a carnie, her character's ideas are clearly old and stale and they wanted to show that by having her cringe-worthy warbling about to a near-empty tent. This I feel was to set up the contrast with the Strong Man's matinee show, with standing ovations and the fore-mentioned mosh pit, further setting him up as a primary adversary and a direct threat to Lang's character's relevance. Personally, I think it was all by design. Her German accent has definitely improved since last episode, thankfully. Much more consistent.
 
Does anyone know what accent Kathy Bates is trying to do this season? It sounds like a gutter mix of Appalachia, Boston and some Midwest. I get the impression she's having a rough time of it. Some folks out there on teh Interwebz think it's Philadelphia. I'm thinking it might be Pittsburgh, based on this article about the ugliest-sounding accent. I usually have a fairly good ear for American accents, and I've met many people from both those Pennsylvania towns, and they don't sound like that. It mystifies me.

I, too, feel somewhat distracted by the anachronistic songs (and a mosh pit!) but it's holding my interest. I think Jessica Lang's musical number in the first one was designed to look horrid. As a carnie, her character's ideas are clearly old and stale and they wanted to show that by having her cringe-worthy warbling about to a near-empty tent. This I feel was to set up the contrast with the Strong Man's matinee show, with standing ovations and the fore-mentioned mosh pit, further setting him up as a primary adversary and a direct threat to Lang's character's relevance. Personally, I think it was all by design. Her German accent has definitely improved since last episode, thankfully. Much more consistent.

I think it's supposed to be Canadian. Knowing this show, they're going to make her part sasquash to explain away her beard.;)
 
Ryan Murphy on Kathy Bates' accent
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/09/ahs-freak-show-premiere-ryan-murphy/

What is Ethel’s accent? Where is she from?

Kathy came up with that idea which I love. She thought that Ethel would be from Baltimore. So we’re saying in that period the two most famous things to come out of Baltimore were Kathy Bates’ character and Wallis Simpson. She worked really hard on her Baltimore-ese. Somebody watched a screening of the first episode and said, “I thought Kathy Bates was out of a John Waters movie.” And I’m like “You’re right!” Because that’s set in Baltimore and back in the day, the accents were even thicker. But I love that. I love when she says “spektakular.”
 
Baltimore?? Interesting... I wonder if there are any Baltimore natives around here that could confirm it. I've known many in my days (being only an hour away from there) and I don't recall any of them sounding like that. May be derived from an "old world" accent that has filtered down through the populace and has since been overtaken with more modern dialects.
 
Poor Meep!

So Dandy is going to join forces with Twisty, eh? That seems perfectly reasonable.

Dandy. LOL!
 
Enter Denis O'Hare and Emma Roberts as a couple of charlatans. I have trouble believing Elsa Mars is so gullible that she immediately thought "Esmeralda" was authentic. Wes Bentley's Edward Mordrake adds a nice supernatural twist to the episode. Looking forward to the conclusion next week!
 
So, any ideas what Denis O'Hare's "condition" is? I'm betting he's got a vagina, but he could have a double sword
 
Enter Denis O'Hare and Emma Roberts as a couple of charlatans. I have trouble believing Elsa Mars is so gullible that she immediately thought "Esmeralda" was authentic. Wes Bentley's Edward Mordrake adds a nice supernatural twist to the episode. Looking forward to the conclusion next week!

Esmeralda told her everything she wanted to hear. Elsa strikes me as just desperate enough to believe anyone who told her those things.

I really liked this episode. The black-and-white story of Mordrake, the introduction of the Denis O'Hare subplot, and especially Kathy Bates' performance in every scene she appeared -- her and the strong-man hashing things out, her backstory told to Mordrake in her trailer, and of course the heart-breaking scene in the doctor's office. I think this episode will be her Emmy submission.

Thanks, Greg Cox, for identifying the source of Elsa's musical performance. It was driving me crazy!
 
Agreed. Great work by Bates in this episode.

I'm really enjoying this season so far. It seems a bit more linear than previous seasons. Easier to track, more characterization (IMHO).
 
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