Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread
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Disney Parks announced at SXSW that they will be adding a The Mandalorian & Grogu story to Smuggler's Run next year when the movie comes out.
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-fu...t-disney-panel-from-sxsw-everything-announced
They revealed some concept art of the Falcon and Razor Crest flying to Cloud City, flying through wreckage from the Second Death Star, and a Sandcrawler. They also said that some of the footage for the ride was filmed at the same time as the movie and that the events of the ride take place the ride will be "something that's happening just off-camera from what you see in the film".
They also revealed that along with appearing in The Mandalorian and Grogu the BDX droids from Disney Land will also be coming to Disney World, Tokyo Disneyland, and Disneyland Paris. One of Babu Frick from The Rise of Skywalker's people will also start appearing with some of them.
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-fu...t-disney-panel-from-sxsw-everything-announced
They revealed some concept art of the Falcon and Razor Crest flying to Cloud City, flying through wreckage from the Second Death Star, and a Sandcrawler. They also said that some of the footage for the ride was filmed at the same time as the movie and that the events of the ride take place the ride will be "something that's happening just off-camera from what you see in the film".
They also revealed that along with appearing in The Mandalorian and Grogu the BDX droids from Disney Land will also be coming to Disney World, Tokyo Disneyland, and Disneyland Paris. One of Babu Frick from The Rise of Skywalker's people will also start appearing with some of them.
The OT did not "worship" Luke; he was a well-developed character with believable growth across three films. That's how great versions of characters work.
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Well usually when you follow something up with a beloved character it is often done with the idea that your going to embrace the reasons the character was so popular in the first place. It is usually the most defining trait of all sequels or even prequels that bring back popular characters. People want more of the same but just with a different story. Luke in the first movie is original character. I will even say Trilogy since SW is all about being the Luke Skywalker story.
Once you become a legendary character though then fan expectations for that character of course changes. The fact that we hadn't seen him onscreen since the early 80's changes what people want out of that character. It's probably why SW should have started off with a adventure that celebrates old SW before then moving on from them and then start telling stories about new character who in theory will develop their own legacy.
Once you become a legendary character though then fan expectations for that character of course changes. The fact that we hadn't seen him onscreen since the early 80's changes what people want out of that character. It's probably why SW should have started off with a adventure that celebrates old SW before then moving on from them and then start telling stories about new character who in theory will develop their own legacy.
That's a modern expectation.
You're at least gonna need a full speeder!
We are in modern times.
But Star Wars was based on "The Hero with A Thousand Faces" mold and ancient myths. Heroes do not live happily ever after often in those stories. They pass the baton on or are superceded by a new hero.
But given Star Wars "Non-Linear" presentation of various stories through-out the in-Universe Time-Line, Lucas Films has shown that they go back in time and tell Hero Stories of famous characters in the past.
It's not just a straight forward moving on of time.
That's why Andor exists, despite us knowing the fate of his character.
That...was a non sequitur of the day. Gold Star if only because I have no idea what this has to do with my point.
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The point being is that the method that they choose to "Pass the Baton" and tell stories hasn't been conventional.
They choose to focus on certain characters or go revisit characters where we know the fate of said characters.
e.g. Kenobi, Andor.
It's how they Lucas Films chooses to tell their stories in the current age.
They're willing to go back and cover era's of the characters lives that aren't well covered and explore them.
Despite the traditional story telling coming from "The Hero with A Thousand Faces" mold and ancient myths
The sequel trilogy feels entirely like Beowulf to me. So...I guess that's non conventional but that was my read.
That is completely irrelevant to my point.
Not to modern. We really started getting lots of sequels in the 80's. Also people are very protective of what they call source material. When you make something new their is no real expectations. It might be good or might suck. But nobody really gets let down if it''s bad. Except for that small group of people who will always point out that 'the book was better." since so many movies and shows have been books adapted to film or tv.
Yes, modern, as in not classic literature.
People can be protective all they want; that doesn't mean a story where the hero fails is bad, or deconstructionist or disrespectful.
It's a story first, mean to evoke imagination or engagement with the reader, not reinforce the reader's previously held beliefs or opinions.
I am not completely against Deconstructionism but I feel like it works best when the character your deconstructing or changing to show the passage of time is the focus of the story. We saw this with Kirk in "Wrath of Khan." KIrk is now old and not the young hero out their exploring space like on the show. He is in a job that doesn't thrill him and now he needs glasses. The thing is the movie though is still about him. He is the star. Saavick isn't the lead and he isn't their to just support the new hero.
I would also say if your going to deconstruct a character it should be done to also explore the changing relationships between the old characters. If they want to do a SW movies were Luke is rejected and has given up and Leia comes and finds him and we see how their is now conflict between the two of them over what happened to her son, than to me that is a good story. Because now the story is about how Luke and Leia have to come together to help stop their son from doing his evil plan. Then Solo returns. They are still divorced and in his own way he to has given up like Luke. Basically a story of a family that has fallen apart having to come together again in a time of need and we see them reconnect.
TO deconstruct something it has to exists to enhance the characters. Not to just call out tropes that are now deemed problematic or whatnot. It all starts with the characters and the only characters that should really matter in the first movie is the ole ones. Rey should be like Saavick in "Wrath of Khan" only in this story she will be cast to the forefront when Solo Dies. The Rebels loose and most of their army is destroyed. Then in the second movie you have Luke mentor Rey because he knows how important she is going to become. Leia pushes through her grief to rebuild their army and gets the help of Finn and Poe to do that. Finn knows about fighting as a ex-Stormtrooper. Poe Becomes the new X-Wing leader. At the end of the movie Luke sacrifices himself to save the day. Thus allowing Rey to be ready to finally take on a defeat Kylo Ren in the third movie.
I would also say if your going to deconstruct a character it should be done to also explore the changing relationships between the old characters. If they want to do a SW movies were Luke is rejected and has given up and Leia comes and finds him and we see how their is now conflict between the two of them over what happened to her son, than to me that is a good story. Because now the story is about how Luke and Leia have to come together to help stop their son from doing his evil plan. Then Solo returns. They are still divorced and in his own way he to has given up like Luke. Basically a story of a family that has fallen apart having to come together again in a time of need and we see them reconnect.
TO deconstruct something it has to exists to enhance the characters. Not to just call out tropes that are now deemed problematic or whatnot. It all starts with the characters and the only characters that should really matter in the first movie is the ole ones. Rey should be like Saavick in "Wrath of Khan" only in this story she will be cast to the forefront when Solo Dies. The Rebels loose and most of their army is destroyed. Then in the second movie you have Luke mentor Rey because he knows how important she is going to become. Leia pushes through her grief to rebuild their army and gets the help of Finn and Poe to do that. Finn knows about fighting as a ex-Stormtrooper. Poe Becomes the new X-Wing leader. At the end of the movie Luke sacrifices himself to save the day. Thus allowing Rey to be ready to finally take on a defeat Kylo Ren in the third movie.
I agree and feel that's what we got. It's through the lens of the new though.
See I am not against the New. Just that, at least in the case you need to ease them in instead of making them the main attraction right from the start. We need to establish a reason to care about Rey before putting in her in a position to where we want to follow her as the protagonist. To me this isn't a issue in a movie like 'Rogue One" because it's not a story about the Skywalkers. All the characters are new. Except I guess Tarkin. Sure Vader gets a cool cameo and Leia gets a not so cool cameo but the movie works because it's all about new characters and the movie is not the first movie in like 20 something years and their is no more pressure anymore to give fans what they wanted which was to see the old gang again in action. It's mostly this stand alone movie that basically fills in a plot hole of the first movie. That they were able to get a good story out of that is impressive.
I am not interested in being eased in to anything.