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51 Reasons California is America's Best State

CA has plenty of trees. :)

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That looks a little like my old neighborhood in Beverly Hills-adjacent/West Hollywood. Whereabouts town are you, Scottpens?
 
^^ My crib is in West Los Angeles, near the junction of the 405 and 10 freeways. The picture, however, is of South Pasadena. Very pretty neighborhood.

And it’s got TREES!
 
Like i said earlier, i've never been down a street anywhere, aside from heavy industrial areas, that didn't have trees lining them.
 
^^ My crib is in West Los Angeles, near the junction of the 405 and 10 freeways. The picture, however, is of South Pasadena. Very pretty neighborhood.

Ah, so I was "close." :lol: Actually, through my job last year I briefly worked with The Mark Gordon Co., whose offices weren't too far from that intersection -- Bundy and Pico? Olympic? Anyway, I hope you don't work too far away from home because I'll tell you -- that rush hour commute was a BITCH.

I'm in Burbank, which, is like Gotham City and Metropolis -- there's "Bad" Burbank and then there's "Good" Burbank.

Pasadena though is absolutely very beautiful. I wish I was still dating my ex from Arcadia; all our dates wound up being in Pasadena! :lol:

And it’s got TREES!

Yeah, I'm not getting this whole thing that there aren't any trees in L.A. We've got trees everywhere!
 
Having lived most of my life in northern California and the last two years plus a few other jaunts in the past in Los Angeles and the area I have to say I'm more of a NorCal guy, but LA does have its charms. Being broke 90% of the time puts a damper on things, but the potential for a charmed life is there for someone with more energy to get out and enjoy it than I have myself.

Sacramento however is California's ugly sweaty backfat and, other than containing many good friends, memories and Jimboy's Tacos, I can't think of any reason not to hope the big one takes out most of the central valley. . . maybe the produce.
 
In regards to the whole "superiority" thing...I feel like I hear that more about New Yorkers, not Californians. I'm not trying to diss NYers but that's how it appears to me. To be fair, though, I do think NYC is a truly fabulous city.
Well, when I said that, I didn't mean to imply that *only* Californians feel superior. I have noticed it in people from the east coast (especially New York), but since I've never lived there and only occasionally meet people from there, it's not as obvious to me. Such an attitude is plainly evident in the national news media. We all hear about anything of note happening in New York whether it's of any interest to us or not. The recent heat wave there is a great example. So it's a little warmer than usual there, why should someone in Arizona care or feel sympathy for them? Yet it was reported on to the rest of the country every day for what seemed like a couple weeks.:rolleyes:
 
Live in LA. Hate it. It's crowded, smelly, confusing and just plain difficult to live in. Everything is so spread out that even basic tasks like swinging by a hardware store or buying groceries feel five times more complex than before I came here - and don't even get me started on coordinating a social outing or the total lack of trees. I'd move back to the Pacific Northwest in a heartbeat if I could.

I'm sorry to have to tell you this, Gep, but apparently someone tricked you into living in The Matrix, Antarctica, or the Sahara instead of California, because I have literally never been down a treeless street here in my life, even in the desert (except parts of Death Valley). If I park on the street there are parts of trees constantly falling on my car.

LA is indeed "spread out" in terms of the locations of major tourist spots or landmarks if you want to visit them all, but for basic necessities like hardware and grocery stores? C'mon. Within a mile of my house in OC, I have big chain grocery stores like Albertson's, Vons, Smart & Final, Ralph's, Stater Bros., Sprouts Farmer's Market, a CVS Pharmacy with groceries, a Target with a huge grocery section inside (those last five are all directly across the street from the sides of my housing tract in two-minute walking distance), Rite-Aid, and Walgreens. There's an Ace Hardware a block down the street and an Orchard Supply Hardware a mile away, not to mention the hardware section at the Target mentioned above. And all that is not counting non-chain Mom and Pop stores. If anything, it's overkill on shopping choices, and I'm just in a mid-size city and not a huge metropolis like LA.

I don't know where you're living, but it doesn't sound like any part of LA I've ever heard of or been to.

Everywhere I've ever lived in California was a mash of all the reasons I hate big cities in general. Smelly air, way too damn hot, ankle-deep in litter, idiots by the droves every which-way you turn... I don't see what all the rage is about.

Did you ever consider not living in big cities if you dislike them so much? It's not as if the entire eastern part of the state away from the coast doesn't consist of small to mid-size towns.

As far as the air quality, when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s LA had smog alerts every couple days; now they're pretty rare thanks to that horrific California legislation everyone constantly complains about. But yeah, pollution is still a problem because it's increasingly hot and we're in a giant basin facing coastal winds and have the most cars, planes, and ships coming and going on a daily basis in the country.

I once visited a beach in Southern California...in August. It was cool and grey, and the babes were wearing sweatshirts.
:shrug:

Then a couple of years after that, I visited a beach just outside Seattle. It was warm and sunny, with plenty of babes in bikinis :bolian:

I'm not sure. It was nine years ago, in San Diego.

2002-03 was an El Niño year. That totally throws the weather all topsy-turvy. That may be why it was so gloomy in August, if it's not simply because as 005 said, it does get cool here on the coast in the morning and at night contrary to popular belief thanks to the wind.

In regards to the whole "superiority" thing...I feel like I hear that more about New Yorkers, not Californians. I'm not trying to diss NYers but that's how it appears to me. To be fair, though, I do think NYC is a truly fabulous city.
Well, when I said that, I didn't mean to imply that *only* Californians feel superior. I have noticed it in people from the east coast (especially New York), but since I've never lived there and only occasionally meet people from there, it's not as obvious to me. Such an attitude is plainly evident in the national news media. We all hear about anything of note happening in New York whether it's of any interest to us or not. The recent heat wave there is a great example. So it's a little warmer than usual there, why should someone in Arizona care or feel sympathy for them? Yet it was reported on to the rest of the country every day for what seemed like a couple weeks.:rolleyes:

Could it be that that's because New York and Los Angeles are the headquarters for most of the major national networks and also the two most populated regions and largest viewing markets of the country? Or is it easier to just assume arrogant superiority on the part of the people?

Political stupidity is something everyone has to live with anywhere they live. ;)
That's true, but California's political stupidity is on a level all its own.

No, it's really not. There are wacky secessionists, woefully unqualified candidates, celebrity politicians, weird laws and political practices, bad governance, criminal lawmakers, and other problems everywhere you go. Are there things that need reform? Absolutely. But acting like California has some kind of special monopoly on political stupidity is ignoring a lot of crap going on around the country.
 
and the way many Californians feel superior to residents of other states.

Because we are. :vulcan:

Exactly.

:lol:

:p

Born and raised in The City of Angels. Now a resident of Northern California. Why would anyone want to live anywhere else?

LA is a great city. Of course I'm biased but when people complain about Los Angeles I think they really haven't been there, or they are not going to the right places. The Getty Center is one of the greatest museums in the world. Is there a better place to see a concert than the Greek Theater? (okay, I imagine Red Rocks is probably better, but besides that....).

The weather is great, the women are beautiful....smog and traffic are the two legitimate complaints that I can see.

Northern California is gorgeous. The beaches, the redwoods, the mountains. The vineyards, the skiing, the fishing.

To each his/her own of course, but I can't imagine living anywhere else.

:techman:

ETA: No trees? WTF? Sacramento has more trees per capita than any city in the world (okay thst might be a little exaggeration, but still...). And what is that I see for hundreds of miles along the northern highways? Oh yeah, giant fucking redwoods!
 
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Sacramento however is California's ugly sweaty backfat and, other than containing many good friends, memories and Jimboy's Tacos, I can't think of any reason not to hope the big one takes out most of the central valley. . . maybe the produce.

Them's fighting words boy.

I live in Sacramento, and THAT, and that alone, makes it the greatest place on Earth.

I do agree, it gets hot here in the summertime, what place doesn't? But that's what air conditioning is for.
 
Sacramento however is California's ugly sweaty backfat and, other than containing many good friends, memories and Jimboy's Tacos, I can't think of any reason not to hope the big one takes out most of the central valley. . . maybe the produce.

Them's fighting words boy.

I live in Sacramento, and THAT, and that alone, makes it the greatest place on Earth.

I do agree, it gets hot here in the summertime, what place doesn't? But that's what air conditioning is for.

We live about 25 miles south of Sacramento. It does get very hot here, but Sac is a cool town. It's not LA or SF, but it has lots to do. It has a certain charm, I think.
 
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