That's what I believe. The whole imperial system is just made up shit to confuse the rest of the world. that's the only logical conclusion
100 AU from Earth
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Say it ain't so!
That does explain why America decided to use the same system, but mess with the quantities. That or it was a very long con to make Tom Cruise at least seem taller.
Klingon history before Khitomer peace accords
General Kang warped all the way to Terra and blew Starfleet Command to Sto-Vo-Kor
Klingon history after Khitomer peace accords
Nope we never went near the place, although General Kang did visit for the parties and the women!
Not currently, not while being victorious. Currently the songs peal and the blood wine flows but as soon as they get their asses handed to them at Kronos their narrative will change to: We do not speak of it with outsiders.
One thing I will credit Discovery for, they spell the planet's name correctly, it's Qo'nos. Even displayed on screen in the subtitles during one of the really talky Klingon language scenes spelled with a Q and an apostrophe. Don't be calling it Kronos is a Disco discussion.
Another factor in Disco's favor is they have abandoned Abrams's weird fetish with leading zeroes. Hell, even the Kelvin Timeline abandoned that practice once Abrams left, the Franklin's registry after all was the proper NX-326.
Hell, you could make videos that show TNG contradicting itself in later seasons just as easily.
My point? There's been NO Star Trek series ever that's been 100% internally consistent even with itself from day one.
There isn't really a "correct" when it comes to transliterating foreign phonetics into an alphabet that doesn't have the exact equivalent sounds. There's just whatever convention is considered more formal or is officially favored by that country's government, and that can change over time. "Godzilla" and "Gojira" are equally correct transliterations of the exact same sound, but the former is based on a scheme that was popular in the 1950s and the latter is based on the scheme that's more standard today.
Besides, if you want to harp on correctness, then it should be Qo'noS, not Qo'nos.
Because that's how canon works. Show X does an episode establishing fact Y. At that point fact Y is part of the canon, even if Show W has said something different.
But as mentioned, canon and continuity are not synonyms. "The canon" is just the overall body of work, contradictions and all. It's not a value judgment or a designation of "rightness," it's merely a nickname for the original creation as distinct from its tie-ins and fanfic. Its internal continuity, meanwhile, is a moving target that changes and evolves as new stories are added to it and older stories are reinterpreted. When two details contradict each other, as a rule, it's the later one that takes precedence -- James T. Kirk instead of R., dilithium instead of lithium, Data not having emotions, etc.
Exactly.
Last night I was a bit annoyed by this but after sleeping on it, I think the Planet Nine hypothesis suggested by @Christopher is actually a pretty solid in-universe rationalization. While I do think the planet was probably a VFX goof, recent real-world science gives serious credence to the possibility (if not probability) of a super-Earth that was ejected during the formation of the solar system and now lies somewhere beyond Neptune.
Conveniently, researchers at the University of Bern hypothesize that the atmosphere may be similar to (the very blue) Neptune. Granted the current research suggests that 100AUs is too close and the planet we saw was WAY too bright for a world that far from the sun, I think the idea has legs.
Of course, the Planet Nine theory could be disproven by real-world science at any point, but in the meantime, I think its a fun in-universe explanation for what we saw. It could also open up some interesting story opportunities about Starfleet’s early attempts to establish a Starbase. Something “close” to home would make sense. TNG’s “Power Play” establishes that Starbase 12 was up and running by 2167 and while Enterprise discusses an NX-01 mission to scout Berengaria VII as the location of the first starbase, who is to say that Starfleet/UE didn’t get cold feet about establishing a base so far away and decided it was more logistically sound to build the first within our solar system?
Conveniently, researchers at the University of Bern hypothesize that the atmosphere may be similar to (the very blue) Neptune. Granted the current research suggests that 100AUs is too close and the planet we saw was WAY too bright for a world that far from the sun, I think the idea has legs.
Of course, the Planet Nine theory could be disproven by real-world science at any point, but in the meantime, I think its a fun in-universe explanation for what we saw. It could also open up some interesting story opportunities about Starfleet’s early attempts to establish a Starbase. Something “close” to home would make sense. TNG’s “Power Play” establishes that Starbase 12 was up and running by 2167 and while Enterprise discusses an NX-01 mission to scout Berengaria VII as the location of the first starbase, who is to say that Starfleet/UE didn’t get cold feet about establishing a base so far away and decided it was more logistically sound to build the first within our solar system?
That can be explained easily enough by assuming the viewscreen was enhancing the light.
I think it was clearly a VFX error. 100 AUs would place Starbase 1 over the aphelion of dwarf planet Eris, in the Scattered Disk beyond the Kuiper Belt. Seeing what was clearly Florida, the East Coast and Lake Michigan on the planet the wreckage orbited could only mean to me that the VFX people probably mistook Starbase 1 for Earth Spacedock, which is basically the same error that was done on NuTrek.
Statistically speaking, we only know that there is A planet Earth 9.3 billion miles from the Sun. The original one can still be there. And I already know why it's there!
See, Barron Grimes is clearly the kind of nouveau riche who would build a life-sized copy of Earth in the Kuiper Belt because he had no better thing to spend his money on. Complete with a duplicate of Earth Spacedock he dubbed Starbase 1 because the original name is copyrighted.
I heard 100 AU, then saw a planet and figured it must be Earth and they messed up and was wondering why the Klingons were on the station but nobody was bothered by Earth below. And this after the the contradictory "the war is lost" and "20% of our territory" lines... it's like someone did a REALLY half-assed rewrite
