£2,000 for people who trade in cars over 10 years old
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All Seeing Eye
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Presumably you have to prove you have bought a new one
Ok, so you buy a new one then when the proof is shown sell it again for the price you paid for it.
Or better yet, tell a friend to sign over their new car to you, pretend you bought it then just sign it back over.
Presumably you have to prove you have bought a new one
Ok, so you buy a new one then when the proof is shown sell it again for the price you paid for it.
You can't sell a brand new car for the same price you bought it.
I'm sure it has to be brand new from a dealer, it wouldn't help the auto industry if it applied to second hand cars now would it.
Presumably you have to prove you have bought a new one
Ok, so you buy a new one then when the proof is shown sell it again for the price you paid for it.
Doesn't work. A brand new car depreciates the second you buy it.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
Why not, you can put whatever price tag on it you want, if it's brand new someone will buy it.
Good point.
Not for the forecourt price. If you already bought it, it's second hand.
I don't like this plan. Encouraging people to deliberately scrap cars that are not that old and potentially still useful, just to keep some people in work. 
why don't the government tempt people with a grant to have their house razed so they can have another one built in its place?
why don't the government tempt people with a grant to have their house razed so they can have another one built in its place?
I like this idea... do you think they'd allow me to do it to my council house?I don't like this plan. Encouraging people to deliberately scrap cars that are not that old and potentially still useful, just to keep some people in work.
why don't the government tempt people with a grant to have their house razed so they can have another one built in its place?
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
There's a sucker born every minute. Someone will buy it.
Cos he's too much of a genius to do it himself, he's just the ideas man...If you say so
Why don't you try that then
My prediction is that subsidies like this will cause the forecourt price of new cars to inflate. Supply and demand -- the market will always find its true level.
And Tachy -- good luck with your scheme. You'll need it.
And Tachy -- good luck with your scheme. You'll need it.
It is the typical Liberal hypocrisy. We find something to blame for alleged problems, which in this case is the mythical Global Warming, so then we target older "inefficient" cars. The problem is that automotive technology today isn't that much different than it was 30 years ago; however, we're going to pick a convenient target rather than go after obvious polluters, like airplanes. Don't tell me jumbo jets don't put out any pollution.I don't like this plan. Encouraging people to deliberately scrap cars that are not that old and potentially still useful, just to keep some people in work.
why don't the government tempt people with a grant to have their house razed so they can have another one built in its place?
I'm working on a 30 year old car that, when tuned properly, doesn't emit any more carbons than a car just off the line last month. But then, I'm big on maintaining my vehicles whereas most people just think sticking gas in it is all that has to be done.
Anyway, these idiot politicians think, "Oh, we just need to get rid of old cars" and the only way they can think of to do this is to subsidized new cars with a "cash for clunkers" scheme. Anyone who has studied economics knows that subsidies have failure written all over them, because they are for things people don't want. How can I say that? Easy, if people wanted whatever is being subsidized, then the government wouldn't have to offer an economic incentive. I don't see people flocking to buy the Toyota Prius because they're languishing on the lots.
Now, how does this hurt the poor? Well, poor people can't afford a new, or newer car, so they maintain their older car and keep it. It is most likely paid off. In the event they want to buy a newer car the prices have gone up because of these stupid "cash for clunkers" schemes, because now, instead of selling the car for $1,000, the seller will say, "Hey, the government will give me $2,000 so you need to beat that price." So now, the political group who claims to care about the poor once again hurt them.
The same happens every time some idiot in government says, "Gee, we need to rid the street of guns. Let's offer $200 for guns and the criminals will give them up." The reality? Smart people pull out some rusty hunk of shit that's been in the basement for ages and get's some free green.
Always wanted to do that when a local dealership would run its "$3500 push, pull, or tow" trade-in event. Just go to a junkyard and give them $100 for a junked car (or offer to take someone's rusted out car in their driveway), and literally have it towed there. They saw "towed" in the gimmick, but sure they don't really expect it.
Probably easier to just walk into the dealership and THREATEN to have a junked car towed there, and just have them take the $3500 off anyway, just so they don't have to pay to have it towed BACK to the junkyard
Probably easier to just walk into the dealership and THREATEN to have a junked car towed there, and just have them take the $3500 off anyway, just so they don't have to pay to have it towed BACK to the junkyard
It is the typical Liberal hypocrisy. We find something to blame for alleged problems, which in this case is the mythical Global Warming, so then we target older "inefficient" cars. The problem is that automotive technology today isn't that much different than it was 30 years ago; however, we're going to pick a convenient target rather than go after obvious polluters, like airplanes. Don't tell me jumbo jets don't put out any pollution.
I'm working on a 30 year old car that, when tuned properly, doesn't emit any more carbons than a car just off the line last month. But then, I'm big on maintaining my vehicles whereas most people just think sticking gas in it is all that has to be done.
Anyway, these idiot politicians think, "Oh, we just need to get rid of old cars" and the only way they can think of to do this is to subsidized new cars with a "cash for clunkers" scheme. Anyone who has studied economics knows that subsidies have failure written all over them, because they are for things people don't want. How can I say that? Easy, if people wanted whatever is being subsidized, then the government wouldn't have to offer an economic incentive. I don't see people flocking to buy the Toyota Prius because they're languishing on the lots.
Thanks for the partisan attack, but this isn't anything to do with the environment.
They are offering it whatever car you buy as a stimulus for the UK car market, you can buy a fucking great big SUV if you want. It may be a bad economic idea, but it's nothing to do with what you are whining about here.
Always wanted to do that when a local dealership would run its "$3500 push, pull, or tow" trade-in event. Just go to a junkyard and give them $100 for a junked car (or offer to take someone's rusted out car in their driveway), and literally have it towed there. They saw "towed" in the gimmick, but sure they don't really expect it.
Probably easier to just walk into the dealership and THREATEN to have a junked car towed there, and just have them take the $3500 off anyway, just so they don't have to pay to have it towed BACK to the junkyard
I would bet that in those cases the car has to be licensed to count, not just a pile of scrap metal.
you're probably SOL if you have a salvage titleAlways wanted to do that when a local dealership would run its "$3500 push, pull, or tow" trade-in event. Just go to a junkyard and give them $100 for a junked car (or offer to take someone's rusted out car in their driveway), and literally have it towed there. They saw "towed" in the gimmick, but sure they don't really expect it.
Probably easier to just walk into the dealership and THREATEN to have a junked car towed there, and just have them take the $3500 off anyway, just so they don't have to pay to have it towed BACK to the junkyard
I would bet that in those cases the car has to be licensed to count, not just a pile of scrap metal.
It's about creating new customers for the car industry, not the environment. But nice attempt at a 'librulz' attack. The point is to get people to buy more cars. Hardly a product of the environmental lobby is it?
People don't want new cars? I think you'll find people can't afford new cars.
Sure, that's the same! Except for the fact that it's in no way similar.
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