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Simplified map, Kirk-era.

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Urge

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Related to a book-project Im working on, I made a simplified map of the Alpha-quadrant as it might look in the Kirk era. Everything I found on the web was a bit confusing and complex, so I made my own map. There are several others (zooming in on the neutral zone between the federation and the Klingon empire, where the magnifying glass is) but this is the map over the whole alpha quadrant. (Its the second map out of five acctually, the first one is the galaxy, explaining the concept of quadrants)

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Is it way off? Or acceptable? I can make changes, as long as the simplicity remains.
 
Ar-Pharazon said:
But we didn't know about the Cardassians in Kirk's era :)
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True. They are not in the book either, I just neithed to fill out that side of the map, and I figured they might be lurking around out there. If you see the map, you notice that they dont border with anyone.

I might off course replace them with some other, more kirkish empire if needed.
 
Uhura ordered a Cardassian Sunrise in that bar in Iowa, but that was in the Abramsverse, not the Iowa of TOS. Even so, perhaps Cardassians were known by the Federation in TOS era, but they simply were never mentioned.... sort of like Floridians or Brazilians were never mentioned, but I am thinking that they were known!
 
Urge said:
Ar-Pharazon said:
But we didn't know about the Cardassians in Kirk's era :)
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True. They are not in the book either, I just neithed to fill out that side of the map, and I figured they might be lurking around out there. If you see the map, you notice that they dont border with anyone.

I might off course replace them with some other, more kirkish empire if needed.
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You have enough space to squeeze the Tholians and Gorn in there and the Trill were around since Dax said she knew Dr. McCoy.
 
Robert D. Robot said:
Uhura ordered a Cardassian Sunrise in that bar in Iowa, but that was in the Abramsverse, not the Iowa of TOS. Even so, perhaps Cardassians were known by the Federation in TOS era, but they simply were never mentioned.... sort of like Floridians or Brazilians were never mentioned, but I am thinking that they were known!
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They were probably just a minor power or something at the time, and it wasn't until the early-24th century they were able to compete with the Big Three of the Alpha Quadrant.
 
This is a new map, with some new things. The Ferengi are actually mentioned in the book, so they had to join in. Thanks for helping me out:-)

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Have you seen the book Star Trek Star Charts? Might save you some time. I don't hold it as the holy grail of this sort of thing, in fact there are some bits I just plain disagree with, but you might find it enlightening.
--Alex
 
wildstar said:
Don't forget the original Star Trek Maps.
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Maps-Photography-Editors/dp/0553012029
Even with the in-jokes (yes, Ringworld is there!), it's still the best rendition of the galaxy of Star Trek.
Here's a cool looking map, nice cloudy nebula type colours:
http://vgrevolution.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/sto-galaxy-map.jpg
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That last map didnt work out for me, since it is from a later century, and the federation suddenly fill up the whole alpha-quadrant.

In my project, (early Kirk) the federation fills only a small portion of the alpha-quadrant, which is how I have understood cannon.

The milkyway is to huge for Humans to conquer half of it in only a few centuries, so I dont like that one even for the Picard-era.
 
Urge said:
wildstar said:
Don't forget the original Star Trek Maps.
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Maps-Photography-Editors/dp/0553012029
Even with the in-jokes (yes, Ringworld is there!), it's still the best rendition of the galaxy of Star Trek.
Here's a cool looking map, nice cloudy nebula type colours:
http://vgrevolution.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/sto-galaxy-map.jpg
Click to expand...

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That last map didnt work out for me, since it is from a later century, and the federation suddenly fill up the whole alpha-quadrant.

In my project, (early Kirk) the federation fills only a small portion of the alpha-quadrant, which is how I have understood cannon.

The milkyway is to huge for Humans to conquer half of it in only a few centuries, so I dont like that one even for the Picard-era.
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I don't like it because it looks like the Klingons and Romulans have no border, which we know they do. It also looks like a lot of the Federation is in the Beta Quadrant.
 
I think that Earth/Vulcan and Romulus and Qo"Nos should be much closer to each other. Uncomfortable close.
 
Urge said:
wildstar said:
Don't forget the original Star Trek Maps.
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Maps-Photography-Editors/dp/0553012029
Even with the in-jokes (yes, Ringworld is there!), it's still the best rendition of the galaxy of Star Trek.
Here's a cool looking map, nice cloudy nebula type colours:
http://vgrevolution.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/sto-galaxy-map.jpg
Click to expand...

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That last map didnt work out for me, since it is from a later century, and the federation suddenly fill up the whole alpha-quadrant.
Click to expand...
I think you're reading it wrong. There's no scale on that map, so there's no way to know how much of the galaxy it shows. The rings around Sol might be throwing you off, too - it's not the whole galaxy.
 
Yeah, I think do to Enterprise Romulus, Vulcan, Earth, Quonos et all need to be really close together. I also always got the feeling that the Romulan and Cardassian empires are smaller than the Klingon and Fed.
 
Magellan said:
Yeah, I think do to Enterprise Romulus, Vulcan, Earth, Quonos et all need to be really close together. I also always got the feeling that the Romulan and Cardassian empires are smaller than the Klingon and Fed.
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I think I will do that. I will keep the territories as they are, but put the capital planets of the Klingons and Romulans a bit closer to Earth.

Are there any other, smaller powers or important planets that I should add?

As for size, it would not be strange if federation and starfleet-people go around believing that their territory is bigger and more superior than what it really is. The map is space as it looks in the Early Kirk-era (slightly before the first star trek episode, but after the Enterprise have left Earth for its five year mission)
 
I made a new map, as I found another empire within the Alpha-quadrant, the Breen confederacy (Yes, I know they are not discovered in the kirkiverse)

So now it looks like this:

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I forgot all about bringing the capital-planets closer together though... Im still thinking on that. Why must they be close together? Does any episodes or films support it?
 
I made a new one where Romulus was but closer to Earth and Vulcan, so that Earth, Vulcan and Romulus form a three-planet string in a way.

Also, Qo`nos was but a bit closer to the neutral-zone.
 
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