Terminator-213 "Earthlings Welcome Here" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS>

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Grade "Earthlings Welcome Here"

  1. "I'll be back." (Excellent)

    21.7%
  2. "Come with me if you want to live." (Above Average)

    58.7%
  3. "Thank you for explaining." (Average)

    13.0%
  4. "Hasta la vista, Baby." (Below Average)

    6.5%
  5. "You are terminated." (Failure)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. John Picard

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    Re: Terminator-213 "Earthlings Welcome Here" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS

    That's right, kids. It's "down the highway" not "across the road". Riley will be OK.

    Above average. Quirky ending and it sucks total ass that we have to wait until February for new episodes.
     
  2. Roshi

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    Any precise date for the return of the show?
     
  3. John Picard

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    I believe the return date is Friday, February 13, 2009.
     
  4. species5618

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    Re: Terminator-213 "Earthlings Welcome Here" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS

    Friday February 13, 2009 so says the Fox website.

    I thought it was great episode but unsatisfying in that as a midseason finale there are far more questions raised than answered. It was nice to see all the principal cast members in one episode (with the exception of Brian Austin Green)...lately episodes have concentrated on one or two characters at the expense of all others--not necessarily a bad thing, but it was nice to see most of them in a single episode, especially before the long wait until February.

    For some reason the station airing it in Toronto doesn't air the promos, ever...I assume that was what all the Kyle Reese talk was about? A promo for the rest of the season?
     
  5. David cgc

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    Precisely.
     
  6. blaXXer

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  7. species5618

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    ^^^(couple posts upthread) thanks for the link David cgc...

    ...I love the promo, but I'm worried about the timeslot--isn't Friday traditionally the "kiss of death" night?
     
  8. John Picard

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    I don't understand that logic. If that were true, then Dallas, Knight Rider, and The Dukes of Hazzard all should have failed.
     
  9. Siwilliams

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    excellent..................and I mean excellent episode. Any idea if FOX will re-air the whole second season before the next new episode? If not, SCI FI should re-air the whole series, all 22 episodes so far before the next new episode. There could be a marathon or two of episodes
     
  10. species5618

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    Huh, I didn't know those shows aired on Friday...in any case I was under the impression that in the past few years that particular night isn't very coveted by the networks--not counting stuff like sports, I always thought they focused more on Sunday to Thursday.
     
  11. BenRoethig

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    I don't think John Henry is skynet. Why teach a machine that's supposed to end all human life rules?
     
  12. highlander

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    Yep those are the ones I remember seeing. If they are working real UFO stuff into the story that is really cool. This show really has some great writing.
     
  13. John Picard

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    *sigh* Youth is wasted on the young :lol:

    Yes, Friday night used to be "the night" to watch television. ABC used to have a Friday night lineup that somehow ruled part of the 1990's (although I thought those shows were stupid). Heck, The Love Boat and Fantasy Island were quite successful on Saturday nights in the 1980's.

    The target demographic for network programmers is the 18-34 year old market; however, most 18-25 year olds are out on Friday nights, which really hampers the schedule for that evening.
     
  14. species5618

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    ^yup, just slightly before my time...demographics change, and so too must the programming I suppose.
     
  15. nx1701g

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    Re: Terminator-213 "Earthlings Welcome Here" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS

    I believe that Ellison has replaced Andy Goode in this timeline personally. Remember in Dungeons and Dragons that Andy (as Wisher) said in his confession to Reese that he was the cause of Skynet. He had tried to reassure it that humanity was good but it was too late and Judgment Day happened.

    As for the human rules: Ellison is teaching it about morality and religion as well. A theory is that John Henry will begin to think of himself as the avatar of the apocalypse and that he was created for that purpose - to punish humanity for their sins - that is not my theory but a part of me considers it a possibility. Another part of me still believes that Weaver is a rogue terminator who is trying to reach her own ends and not those of Skynet.
     
  16. nx1701g

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    Re: Terminator-213 "Earthlings Welcome Here" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS

    Exactly. I don't think that Fox's Sci-Fi Fridays are going to go very well. I think that Sci-Fi should by the show to replace Battlestar next season...
     
  17. Nociod

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    Liked the episode and voted above average.

    I'm a bit surprised that no one has commented on the time travel without feeling pain. In the original, Kyle showed pain due to the time travel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFkBoj4nizI , but somehow Riley and Jesse feel none?

    Might be because the time traveling device has been updated or something, anyone remember if John and Sarah felt pain after jumping forwards in time?, can't remember, but it's a bit annoying.
     
  18. nx1701g

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    Re: Terminator-213 "Earthlings Welcome Here" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS

    They felt time lag and shivered for a bit after their arrival. They had vision problems (Sarah buying blue handled pliers thinking they were red, John not being able to find the Turkey that was right in front of his eyes) in Gnothi Seauton and were hazy (tired, irritable, difficulty focusing) according to dialogue.
     
  19. Nociod

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    Ah, ok. But still it was nothing compared to Kyle's trip.

    Do you agree with me that Jesse and Riley seemed unaffected?
     
  20. Booji

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    Re: Terminator-213 "Earthlings Welcome Here" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS

    It's a Shadow vessle!!!.... if it was black of course