Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habits?

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There you go ... cheeseburgers in paradise.

 

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Reminds me of the seaQuest episode where cattle have been banned because of their methane. Then Lt. Krieg gets his hands on some real beef and grills a cheeseburger.

 

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In order for continuity to make sense between all shows, it would make sense that all of these options are always available, from pills to liquids to replicators to real food, depending on place and circumstance. Future Earth is in balance, and just because Riker said they no longer enslave animals doesn't mean there aren't farms where people keep animals and occasionally enjoy eggs or even slaughter a cow for cheeseburgers, they just wouldn't have massive meat factory ranches or whatever that we do today. The books often mention that replicated food is not quite as good as the real thing, but I guess that only applies for fans who consider the books as canon.

 

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Is that really Utopian though? Isn't there something to be said for the art of enjoying a well prepared meal and having a wonderful conversation while doing so, instead of everyone just taking food pills and then goofing off on the computer. i feel meal enjoyment, like conservation is an art and just because people sometimes don't want to practice it because it is inconvenient, doesn't make it bad. It feels like food plays would take away from enjoyment and social interaction among people, rather then enhance it, it seems like something that would make people feel more like robots then humans. Humans enjoying each others company over a meal has part of the human experience for centuries, I don't think a utopia should throw the baby out with the bath water and deem all human experiences before the Federation are instantly bad.

 

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What would an Starfleet insectoid officer consume? Nectar maybe (back to the liquid diet), but what happens if we scale a insect up to the size of a average Human?

 

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And we also know that Doctor Boyce sometimes prescribes a mean martini.

And who wants to live in a world when you only live on pills. That's sounds more like some sterile, THX-1138 style dystopia than any future you'd want to live in.

 

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"Utopia" of course means "no place," and the utopian version of Star Trek is no place I'd want to visit much less hear every blithering detail about.

 

I don't quite understand that, for me it's a contradiction itself. If you don't slave an animal it's because you consider him/her as an equal, so you don't explode him/her, you don't see him/her as an object, you might give him/her the right to come and go wherever he/her wishes not under human control and later demands.

As for the main discussion, it really doesn't bother me much, as long as they explain the process at some point but again, it does become a contradiction later on the show, it seems to be animal slavery as well (that Irish colony for instance, Picard wanting to ride a real horse, etc). Don't forget the 'pet' issue on board the Enterprise. The dogs and the cats, they don't belong in that environment, they usually get stress when we carry them on any car/bus/train, besides they seem to depend on humans for everything (even in that era! wow!), then again where is the free will and respect for animals we were talking about before?

 

I EATING RAW GOAT IT'S NORMAL IN THE 23RD CENTURY

 

The idea of replicators creating food is actually enough to make it believable. Although, I think it's would a nice touch if several of the crew opted out from eating and instead use any of the dozens of hypothetical futuristic nutritional intake scenarios.

Don't really care about their cuisine.

 

Yeah.... but we've been herding animals for meat consumption for thousands of years... it wasn't a problem until our human population exploded and got out of control; that's the REAL issue. In fact, that's the root cause for a lot of humanity's problems today.

Hunting wild boar with a spear is still normal operating procedure in many modern and new fashioned cultures, as well as the "primitive" ones. Archery hunting is still very much accepted as modern and acceptable, yet we've been doing that for millennia.

One thing I did notice: In Enterprise, they seem to consume iced tea as the most popular beverage available. Alcoholic beverages seem to be available, but predominantly it's iced tea. Given it's high popularity today as the most consumed beverage in the world, excluding water, that makes sense.

I see humans in the 22nd, 23rd, 24th century eating more balanced, varied meals. If we succeed as a society to the level that Star Trek has, it'll be because we haven't killed ourselves with a diet of coca cola and nacho cheese doritos. I see people at some point finally getting BACK to eating everything, but in moderation and ensuring that meals are balanced and wholesome.

 

One area I have a hard time with is eating food from alien races. Given that things evolved in completely different environments it's hard to imagine finding something that wouldn't be toxic never mind nutritious. (assuming alien life is even dna-based) But if we can accept a human-vulcan love child as our science officer, then I guess I can accept people sharing alien food on a tv series where most of the aliens look human to begin with

 

According to TNG, all humanoid species came from the same genetic stock.

Kor

 

I really enjoyed The Chase which sort of explains the love children. I still get stuck on interchangeable food among the races, given billions of years of evolution. At least we saw the Klingon tea ceremony which provided a Klingon food that was toxic to humans.

 

This discussion reminds me of this: direct link

 

We already have 3-D food printers and have grown "edible" meat in the lab from cultured cells. No telling what things will be like in a few hundred years.