Spoilers Game Of Thrones’ Spinoff ‘House Of The Dragons’ ordered to series

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  1. M.A.C.O.

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    Wyverns seem to be en vogue when it comes to fantasy media nowadays. I remember when they made the changes to Smaug after the theatrical release of AUJ. By the time the movie hit home video and Desolation hit theaters; Smaug is now wyvern.

    The difference between wyverns and dragons, besides where the wings are. Is that wyverns in fantasy lore don’t breath fire.

    The only series keeping it real, was Narnia. With dragon Eustace in VOTDT.

     
  2. Kai "the spy"

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    Tolkien based Smaug on Fafnir. In Norse mythology and Germanic folklore, Fafnir was the son of Hreidmar, the king of dwarves. To make up for killing Ótr, another son of Hreidmar, Odin sent Loki to collect a golden treasure.
    Loki stole the treasure of Andvari (Alberich, in the Germanic version), including the cursed ring Andvaranaut. The curse would bring death to any unrightful owner of the treasure. When Hreidmar refused to share the treasure with his remaining sons, Fafnir killed his father in anger, stole the treasure and brought it into a cave hidden by a waterfall.
    Lying on top of the treasure, Fafnir turned from a dwarf into a lindworm. This is how Sigurd/Siegried finds and slays him at the beginning of the Nibelungenlied. Sigurd presented Andvaranaut to Brynhild as a wedding present, and it became thus the Ring of the Nibelungen.

    Obviously, Tolkien took a lot from the Fafnir/Sigurd saga for The Hobbit and LotR, with the One Ring being a mash-up of the cursed Ring of the Nibelungen and the Cloak of Invisibility, which was also part of the treasure Sigurd took after slaying Fafnir.
     
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  4. M.A.C.O.

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    Yes.

    You will also be expected to correctly pronounce the Norse name of the Midgar Serpent, Jörmungandr.

    Also you will be expected to name slayers of 3 famous Hydras: Lernaean hydra, Yamata no orochi, and King Ghidorah.

    Bonus points for providing details about the beasts Typhon, Leviathan and St. George’s dragon.
     
  5. Nerys Myk

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    Nick Fury
     
  6. Orphalesion

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    Again, Medieval Times didn't clearly distinguish between the different "types" of dragons, and for fictional universes an author has the final say of what their creatures are called and look like.

    But what really sucks is that we will have to wait till 2024 for Season 2. Who's bright idea was this?
     
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    It was Visery's dying wish, I blame Alicent.
     
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  8. Dee1891

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    According to both Ryan Condal and George R.R. Martin, "Fire & Blood" was written as a history of the Targaryen family by a maester named Archmaester Gyldayn. Gyldayn based "his book" on various accounts from other sources in conflict with each other. This made the archmaester and the novel unreliable narrators. And both Martin and Condal could claim that what is shown in the series can be regarded as the "true account" of the Dance of the Dragons.
     
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  9. M.A.C.O.

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    Rapid fire round engaged.

    Steve Rogers, Sam Wilson, Natasha Romanoff, Nick Fury, Bucky Barnes and Laura Kinney (X-23) are all HYDRA slayers.

     
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  10. Nerys Myk

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    Nick was first.
     
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    This short video about the British Royal Family changing its name during WW1, also briefly mentions the history of England.
    You can see where George R.R Martin got his story ideas from.
     
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  12. Dee1891

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    Technically, Elizabeth II was the last ruler from the House of Windsor aka Saxe-Coburg Gotha.
     
  13. danellis

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    Really? What's Charles then?

    dJE
     
  14. Tuskin38

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    Wikipedia says he goes by Mountbatten-Windsor if a family name is needed.

    But it also says he's from the House of Windsor.

    There is a note on the House of Windsor page that says
    'The children and male-line descendants of Queen Elizabeth II genealogically belong to the House of Oldenburg.'
     
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  15. 137th Gebirg

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    I always thought it was the House of Hanover.
     
  16. Dee1891

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    The Royal Family's house name should go by Charles' name - Montbatten-Windsor. Frankly, it should solely be Mountbatten. And you're right, from a genealogical POV, the family's house name should be House of Oldenburg.
     
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    No, they lost the crown of Hanover when Victoria became Queen as the succession law was male heirs before female, so it went to her Uncle.
     
  19. Dee1891

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    Meanwhile, in Britain, Victoria was the last sovereign of the House of Hanover. Her son, Edward VII was the first sovereign of Saxe Coburg-Gotha aka Windsor.
     
  20. Kai "the spy"

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    Thought I'd share this here. "Curious George: An Evening with George R.R. Martin", hosted by Kevin Smith: