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Why was the USS Enterprise F decommissioned so early?

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Why was the USS Enterprise F decommissioned so early? It doesn't make any sense, looking on the Memory Alpha website, the ship doesn't appear to have accomplished much of anything and it got written out of service in Universe for no real good reason. How long would it have been in service for? This is definitely a bad writing moment for me.

 
Why was the USS Enterprise F decommissioned so early? It doesn't make any sense, looking on the Memory Alpha website, the ship doesn't appear to have accomplished much of anything and it got written out of service in Universe for no real good reason. How long would it have been in service for? This is definitely a bad writing moment for me.

Factory recalls.
 
They wanted to include the F as a nod to Online. I believe the models also existed too.

In universe I would assume the

Obviously we have no evidence of what the F did during its service, any more than what we knew about the C and B pre YE/Generations (and we know very little even now).

If the E ended its life around 2386 at 13 years, that would put it nearly twice as long as the D, and still leave a gap 15 years for the F to be in service

We don’t know how long the B and C were around, the A and D were around less than 10 years though, and the NX01 made it to a decade. All packed a hell of a lot of events in.

The 1701 with its major refit(s) seems to be the odd one out in length of service.
 
The Star Trek: Picard Logs had it stated that the Enterprise-F was launched in 2386, and had been commanded by several captains over the course of her fifteen years in service. The ship's critical systems were severely compromised during the Monfette Gambit (β), a rescue effort for Raillian refugees on Fenton IV (β). It was therefore that the Enterprise-F was scheduled for an early decommission. [4]

That's as close to a "Official Reason" as you're going to get.
 
The real problem of course, is that the producers have no understanding of Star Trek.

'The Making of Star Trek ', states explicitly that 'galaxy travel is fully perfected...' meaning no exploding consoles, no engineering failures, no this, no that.

Somebody's idea of boring...

The TOS Enterprise, could, in other words "take" it. This is to be extremely expected after two hundred years of Star Travel.

No technological failures.

Meaning that in the episode with the flying parasites that it would be extremely rare to get anywhere near a star. This of course raises the question, just how close are they in routine duty, are they expected to a star? If 93,000,000 miles, then there is a major problem. A tenth of an A. U.? That's one hundred times what one experiences at one A. U.

We know that there is some protection to the ship, deflector screen based to be exact, but...
 
My own in-universe rationale for why the Enterprise-F was decommissioned so early is that Starfleet shipbuilding policy had moved away from big ships like the Odyssey-class towards smaller ships like the Neo-Constitution-class. the Sagan-class, and the Duderstadt-class that also featured standardized hull components. Starfleet could have repaired the Enterprise-F after the Monfette Gambit, but rather than spend the resources trying to keep a ship that no longer reflected its current ship philosophy, they simply retired her. They were going to have a new Enterprise from one of the newer smaller designs anyway, IMO.
 
The real problem of course, is that the producers have no understanding of Star Trek.

'The Making of Star Trek ', states explicitly that 'galaxy travel is fully perfected...' meaning no exploding consoles, no engineering failures, no this, no that.

That rocks! (or at least the rocks being flung in TNG during console explosion scenes)


Somebody's idea of boring...

Definitely.

There are always unknowns and external elements that can potentially cause damage. The theme's spoken verbiage is par for the course. Alien technology could easily make an impact.

The TOS Enterprise, could, in other words "take" it. This is to be extremely expected after two hundred years of Star Travel.

It withstood the power of 90 photon torpedoes simultaneously hitting it in "The Changeling", for a while anyhow. The "90" number is so ludicrous in terms of trying to awe the audience that the usual volleys in other episodes would mean... zero damage.

No technological failures.

"Contagion" carefully crafts a situation in which the warp core breach can occur, but that becomes a crutch for several stories afterward that don't put as much care into setting up the calamity.

Not to mention that anyone could simply sneeze on a nacelle and moments later the entire ship would explode. The "D" is so big yet when the Bozeman doinks it in "Cause and Effect", the "D" has so much gravitational potential that it just sits there as Bozeman continues to graze and apply pressure against the nacelle, but the whole nacelle glow blinks and explodes (at least the metal doesn't melt) and the rest of the ship explodes a moment later.

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No tractor beam on the saucer until Tuesday? Also notice that the scale of the Bozeman, a ship comparable in saucer and nacelle dimensions to the 1701-A, when shown atop 1701-D is completely off (its saucer is almost as large as the "D" and the nacelles appear identical if not slightly longer as well.) Then again, if it were in scale, seeing something that's roughly a third-to-a-half the size of the "D" going "doink!" on the nacelle might not look as compelling, so there's that. I can dig it.

Meaning that in the episode with the flying parasites that it would be extremely rare to get anywhere near a star. This of course raises the question, just how close are they in routine duty, are they expected to a star? If 93,000,000 miles, then there is a major problem. A tenth of an A. U.? That's one hundred times what one experiences at one A. U.

One of many such questions. If the acting is strong enough and the story has other ideas compensating, it's easier to swallow or disregard the life-as-we-know-it issues. We know a lot, but we ain't remotely omnipotent just yet.

Trek was always littered with life forms that could traverse outer space with apparent ease, though even in the late-80s I was amazed they kept the idea going. I suppose it's possible that some being out there is biological in design and actually lives in outer space, feeding on hydrogen, asking what life is about, rubbing up against a passing asteroid named after dog for companionship, and so on, but never once did they show any biological space critter going at warp speed - so they can't exactly travel very far. At least "Tin Man" focuses on Tam Elbrun, Troi and Data, keeping the eponymous creature as secondary so people don't think into it all too quickly. Unlike "Galaxy's Child" and others.

And as laudable as Trek, especially TNG, consulted real space agencies, some dramatic bending was still sometimes done (e.g. "perigee" vs ("apogee"?), from one of the documentaries I'd watched years ago.) Big props for trying and doing as much as they had and could.

We know that there is some protection to the ship, deflector screen based to be exact, but...

:)
 
It is just easier to think of the whole season as a fictional holodeck adventure just like These Are the Voyages. Except this one is teach Shaw not to be a dick, this is why he says and does whatever he wants to Picard and Riker, they're just holograms so he's just having fun being obstinate and sassy. Though I don't imagine he'd be best pleased with whoever programmed his phobia to kill him.
 
They wanted to include the F as a nod to Online.
As I bring up every time someone mentions that, a better way to do that was to have the Enterprise E be the ship that was being decommissioned at the Frontier Day celebrations and then have the F be the ship Seven takes command of at the end.

Yes, I know, that doesn't take into account the fact that Lord Terry fell in love with the Shangri-La class and wanted new Enterprise to be one of them (or rather the modified "Neo Constitution" version) while also canonizing the Odyssey class, but I was approaching the matter logically.

Even then, 2401 is still too early to retire the Enterprise E, would be just a year shy of forty years of service, and the ship would presumably have a hundred year lifespan like the Galaxy class is supposed to and the Excelsior and Miranda classes are seen to. But it's a lot easier to accept than a ship which should only have been fifteen years old being retired.
If the E ended its life around 2386 at 13 years,
2386 is when the F was supposedly launched, according to a hallowed Tweet from the Blessed Lord Terry, meaning the E likely ended its service at least a year or so before then. Personally, in my "head canon" if you will, I assume the Enterprise E really was one of the Sovereign class ships we see in Prodigy's S1 finale where it was either destroyed or so severely damaged as to be deemed unsalvageable. It fits the timeline, and it really wouldn't have been Worf's fault. The only problem there is Lord Terry has also issued a Holy Tweet that the Enterprise E was destroyed while on a "top secret mission" which he wants the novels to depict. They haven't, nor do they have plans on doing so.
I believe they were asked from above to include the -F, and had to adjust accordingly.
Lord Terry has admitted using the Enterprise F and having it be STO's Odyssey class was his idea. He also said after the episode aired using the Enterprise E instead might have been a better idea.
 
Then there's another problem.

In the real world, the U. S. deployed the shoulder launched surface to air missile...

The thing that is forgotten, is that the seeker head, was computer driven. Why is this important? To upgrade one, you only had reprogram it.

Now go to Star Trek's Independent Logic computers, existing as early 2002.

Face palm.

Reprogramming is no longer done.

Double face palm.
 
There's been rumors for a couple years that AMT/Polar Lights/Round 2 would release a Titan/Ent-G model kit, but nothing has ever been confirmed.
 
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