When exactly did Jadzia Dax reject Julian Bashir (since her first words to him here definitely not rejection)? Also, first interaction between Bashir

[BohandiAnsoid]

I was just rewatching the first episode of Deep Space 9 and I noticed that Jadzia Dax’s first response to Bashir was most definitely not rejection. So, when did that rejection occur? I cannot pinpoint it (unlike Seven’s of Harry, this occurred in “Someone to watch over me”).

Also, I have a bit of hard time understanding Kira’s reaction to Bashir. And, honestly this is something I would say myself. After all, Bashir was technically correct, this was the border of charted space. I understand Kira had a bit of national pride, but why did she react so badly?

Also, I read some books written for DS9 early in its run in the past and it seems like their authors were under the impression that Jadzia/Julian is going to happen in the future.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I don't think Jadzia ever rejected Julian so much as Julian just finally got the hint. Just as well. The two characters really didn't have that kind of chemistry.

 

[BohandiAnsoid]

But when it happened?

 

[Tosk]

But when it happened?

Jadzia basically starts shooting him down beginning with the first scene of A Man Alone.

Also, I have a bit of hard time understanding Kira’s reaction to Bashir. And, honestly this is something I would say myself. After all, Bashir was technically correct, this was the border of charted space. I understand Kira had a bit of national pride, but why did she react so badly?

It's not the border of anything for Kira. It's her home, and she didn't care for Bashir (accidentally) implying it was some kind of backwater.

 

[DonIago]

Also, I have a bit of hard time understanding Kira’s reaction to Bashir. And, honestly this is something I would say myself. After all, Bashir was technically correct, this was the border of charted space. I understand Kira had a bit of national pride, but why did she react so badly?

I don't have a lot of time right now, so I'll just say that even if Bashir was correct (and that's a pretty arugable if), he might have chosen being nice over being honest and especially coming across as patronizing ("the almighty Federation is here to save you from your good-natured but hopelessly backward and primitive selves!").

if you decide to imply that other people are primitive as he did, I hope you're prepared for your audience to react less kindly than Kira did.

 

[Oddish]

I was just rewatching the first episode of Deep Space 9 and I noticed that Jadzia Dax’s first response to Bashir was most definitely not rejection. So, when did that rejection occur?

Sometimes it takes the actor awhile to figure out their character. We didn't see Dax's final version until midway through the second season.

 

[Farscape One]

Sometimes it takes the actor awhile to figure out their character. We didn't see Dax's final version until midway through the second season.

This is true, but I'd argue we start seeing the final version in "RULES OF ACQUISITION", episode 7 in season 2. Her interactions with Quark and her conversations with Pel show this. And even in-universe, this makes sense at this time.

Three episodes earlier, in "INVASIVE PROCEDURES", Dax was stolen from her for a brief time. Jadzia felt very alone, she said to Julian on the table. When Dax was reintegrated back into her, she not only was able to not feel alone again, but she remembered everything Verad felt and knew... and "it's so sad".

I think, between those two things, it gave Jadzia a new, deeper appreciation of being joined, and to really live life to the fullest. Which would also explain her affinity for Klingon culture. Few races have a zest and lust for living in the moment than the Klingons. It's why they have basically no fear of death... staring death in the face reminds them they are alive. It's why they 'treat death like a lover', as Jadzia said to Kang. She's right about that.

What's great about this is that the change wasn't immediate in the next episode. It was a little bit at a time, which is believable because something as life altering as that you would see changes in increments until a fair amount of time passes and it becomes fully a part of you. (10 episodes later, we get "PLAYING GOD", when we see her doing all sorts of things like wrestling in the morning, eating at the Klingon restaurant, etc.)


It's one of the most subtle character developments you'll ever find, but it's all right there.

 

[kkt]

But when it happened?

Since they never had a romantic relationship, there doesn't need to be a glaringly obvious ending point for it. It's pretty common for someone to think another person is interesting enough have coffee or a meal a few times without it turning into fireworks.