What happens to Seriously injured Clone Troopers?

[Guy Gardener]

They are not people, but once they start thinking that they are people, it's going to get expensive.

Anything too inhumanly skeevy like a juicing factory that coverts quadriplegic clones into chutney, intended for consumption by clones, is going to be a poorly kept secret, leading to civil unrest, a clone uprising, and total victory to the Seperatists, unless the Clone Troopers are programmed to be totally cool with canabalism?

 

[The Wormhole]

Probably a medical discharge and then left to fend for themselves in the civilian world. After all, the Empire essentially let all Clone Troopers retire once there were enough Stormtroopers and the Clones were getting too old. And we've seen Clones with varying degrees of success in the civilian world, such as the Bad Batch working as mercenaries, Rex, Wolfe and Gregor eventually settling into retirement before being called upon by the Rebel Alliance, or the homeless Clone Obi-Wan ran into begging for spare change.

 

[Guy Gardener]

During the war, there's a machine to keep the system going.

After the war, some how getting rid of 10s of millions of soldiers who demand a billet and 3 free meals a day, while providing nothing in exchange for their upkeep, is the only way they can balance the budget.

Actually...

If Sheev had it all worked out down to the moment when the war was going to end, unless the moment was Anikan finally figuring it all out, then the Sith Lord would have known when to slow down, and eventually stop the production of clones and battle Droids as the galaxy approached the limits of how long Sideous was willing to let this draw out.

I was reading earlier today that Walt Disney tried to join World War 1 early by lying about his age, but by the time he finally got to France, the war was over, and he saw no action (as an ambulance driver).

 

[Ithekro]

After the war. Palpatine has his Officers throw the Clones at the most stubborn resistance pockets of the Separatist holdouts, and other planets that defy his new Empire. The new volunteer TK Stormtroopers are nowhere near trained enough for war and are only suited for garrison duties and intimidation of the locals. So Palpatine gets to wear out his Clone Army by throwing them at the hardest walls until he runs out of them, or they age out/retire. or go AWOL. Assuming they keep the young clones training as the reserve forces, they should have some Clone units ready as elite forces for at least five to ten years in the age of the Empire, than Stormtrooper and regular army recruitment will need to step up to permanently replace the Clone Army.

Assuming nothing more drastic happens in The Bad Batch...like a Clone Rebellion.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The clones loved the Jedi.

The Clones killed the Jedi.

Emotional dissodence?

Yes, yes they were programmed to be cool about it, and love the empire, but cracks would start showing up in their programming.

I did not get past the pilot of the Bad Batch.

What's the natural life expectancy of a clone? They don't seem to still be ageing faster, so they probably still have 40 years to expend after the Clone Wars end.

 

[Imaus]

The clones loved the Jedi.

The Clones killed the Jedi.

Emotional dissodence?

Yes, yes they were programmed to be cool about it, and love the empire, but cracks would start showing up in their programming.

I did not get past the pilot of the Bad Batch.

What's the natural life expectancy of a clone? They don't seem to still be ageing faster, so they probably still have 40 years to expend after the Clone Wars end.

That's the thing though, they are ageing faster.

Rex should only be around 25ish by the time of Rebels but is already physically 50s, 60s even. By the time of ROTJ if 'Santa claus' is rex, he's like 33 total but is 66 physically.

The ageing was never stopped. They were born at most since 30 BBY, by 10 ABY they'll be in they'll be in their 70s and 80s despite it being a 40 years. Clones however in the Imperial period should still be relatively fit and healthy - 30s, 40s - so should be in the labor force honestly, being mercs, garrison troops....

 

[Reverend]

I'd say that cybernetics are clearly advanced and cheap enough that the line between "dead" and "irrevocably crippled" is so fine as to represent a tiny minority of edge cases. That is to say, for the most part they got fixed up and sent right back into combat, or reassigned to other duties. Those very very few that couldn't be "fixed" but still alive and NOT brain-dead were probably just retired to hospice care. Galaxy wide, we're probably only talking about a few thousand individuals at most, so a single facility either on Coruscant or some unimportant colony world would be sufficient to see to their needs.

After the war . . . well it's the Empire we're talking about, so most likely they were just put through some bureaucratic discharge process and dumped out on the streets to fend for themselves. Maybe there's some official provision given for support, but the process of applying for it is so byzantine as to be pointless.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That's the thing though, they are ageing faster.

Rex should only be around 25ish by the time of Rebels but is already physically 50s, 60s even. By the time of ROTJ if 'Santa claus' is rex, he's like 33 total but is 66 physically.

The ageing was never stopped. They were born at most since 30 BBY, by 10 ABY they'll be in they'll be in their 70s and 80s despite it being a 40 years. Clones however in the Imperial period should still be relatively fit and healthy - 30s, 40s - so should be in the labor force honestly, being mercs, garrison troops....

A clone in their prime is whatever Jango was when the sample was taken of his dna.

Morrison in was born in 1960. The movie premiered in 2002.

It takes 4 real years to go from clone fetus to superficially look like a 42 year old super soldier.

A 25 year old clone, who came out of Clone school as a 42 year old looking person, if he aged normally like a non clone human being, would appear to be 67ish.

 

[Ithekro]

Four years they look more or less like 15 year oldish Daniel Logan (who is suppose to be playing a ten year old Boba Fett in 2002)

 

[Guy Gardener]

Four years they look more or less like 15 year oldish Daniel Logan (who is suppose to be playing a ten year old Boba Fett in 2002)

After four years, they look like a 42 year old Tem Morrison.

Their ageing is sped up and then normalized once they get to 42, otherwise one human year equals 10 clone years, and they would all seem to be 80 years old when order 66 was issued, and over 300 by the battle of Yavin.

 

[Set Harth]

After four years, they look like a 42 year old Tem Morrison.

I thought that took ten years. The Logan-aged ones were supposed to have taken 5 years according to the script.

 

[Oddish]

I doubt ritual suicide occurs often, and I don't see them as food. But I think the other five options are possible, given the magnitude of the injury, length and quality of the trooper's service, the clone's leadership potential, and the basic benevolence of the commander.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I thought that took ten years. The Logan-aged ones were supposed to have taken 5 years according to the script.

The younger ones eating food from the movie, are a different actor named bodie Taylor. I always assumed that they were less than 10 years old and had not finished training/maturing yet.

I read a wiki just now that said that the Clone Troopers took ten years to grow, but that you could grow clones much faster than that who were proportionately more unstable physically and mentally depending on how much less time you leave them in the oven.

The first clones took 10 years to make, but the last clones may have taken 5 years to reach maturity.

Dna, the length of your telomeres are shorter depending on how old you are when you provide a sample. Clone maturity has to be the same age as the doner. So the first clones would have matured at 32, and the last clones would have matured at 42.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I doubt ritual suicide occurs often, and I don't see them as food. But I think the other five options are possible, given the magnitude of the injury, length and quality of the trooper's service, the clone's leadership potential, and the basic benevolence of the commander.

Klingons commit suicide when they become feeble.

 

[Ithekro]

I would imagine that some Clones might will their bodies as spare parts for their 'brothers', since they are all genetically compatible, meaning organ and limb transplants wouldn't be rejected.

 

[Reverend]

Again, the ubiquity of effective and extensive cybernetics makes me feel that tissue transplants of any kind aren't all that common as a rule. Maybe for the super rich that are too vain to want cybernetic, but they'd just how their own tissue cloned on an as needed basis.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Again, the ubiquity of effective and extensive cybernetics makes me feel that tissue transplants of any kind aren't all that common as a rule. Maybe for the super rich that are too vain to want cybernetic, but they'd just how their own tissue cloned on an as needed basis.

Line from Andor.

"We're cheaper to use than droids."

Prison Labour = Clone slave labour.

Different departments with different overheads, and different success targets.

The people worried about losing their jobs because of how much it costs to buy new clones are not the same people who are worried about losing their jobs because of how much it costs to repair clones.

 

[Reverend]

Line from Andor.

"We're cheaper to use than droids."

Prison Labour = Clone slave labour.

Different departments with different overheads, and different success targets.

The people worried about losing their jobs because of how much it costs to buy new clones are not the same people who are worried about losing their jobs because of how much it costs to repair clones.

Prisoners and slaves are cheaper because they're disposable and you don't have to pay to make new ones. Indeed, on the contrary, one can get quite wealthy "making" new ones. Droids and clones still need some degree of upfront capital investment and infrastructure. Clones and strandcast don't grow on trees after all . . . unless you engineer them to, I guess.

Also remember in Andor that we actually see what they were using those components for, and they were being installed by droids, so it's not at all an either/or scenario. "Oppress every part of the buffalo" and all that.

 

[valkyrie013]

Probably un ceremoniously discharged. Some may continue as trainers, or be put in to the really crappy jobs or areas. But once you get to the A New Hope Era, there all basically retirement age. But a good amount will probably serve there time as troopers till they just physically cant, or are killed.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Farm up state.