What ever happened to the Romulans in the Mirror Universe?
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I assume in their version of the Earth-Romulan War, having subjugated the Vulcans for a century and then blessed with 23rd Century tech to cannibalise from the Defiant, victory was swifter. Not the David versus Goliath scenario that probably Enterprise would've depicted in Season 5. No stalemate, ending with a treaty via subspace radio. The Terran Empire would similarly be attacked first, after the usual subterfuge acts through proxies. At which point, now they'd just retaliate by sending the I.S.S. Defiant to level, if not destroy their planet.
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There is no canon information about Romulans in the mirror universe except in "Through the Looking Glass" Sisko, posing as his doppelganger, tells a lie about going to ask the Romulans for help for the Terran Rebellion, indicating that they are a major galactic power.
It's explained in "Homecoming" (a mirror universe New Frontier short story):
Romulus is destroyed by a thalaron bomb planted by the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance. After this, the remaining Romulan fleet allies with the Terran Rebellion.
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How is that "explaining"? That's just an event, and it's not the first Mirror Universe story to feature the mirror Romulans. And they don't link up with the Terrans until Rise Like Lions.
Never quite "got" the Mirror Universe ethos.
If our heroes of the Federation have evil counterparts, then does that not mean, or should it not mean, that all the badass guys like Klingons, Romulans, Borg etc should in actual fact, be good guys or peaceful explorers in Mirrorland ?
If our heroes of the Federation have evil counterparts, then does that not mean, or should it not mean, that all the badass guys like Klingons, Romulans, Borg etc should in actual fact, be good guys or peaceful explorers in Mirrorland ?
I don't think you should take the "mirror" part too literally. It really seems more like their universal rate of entropy is just higher or something like that, something that affects everyone everywhere.
Alternatively, since the mirror aspect does seem to remain fairly strong even though it shouldn't (after what TOS Mirror Spock did, should the parents of our familiar DS9 cast have even met and had kids? Especially with the exact same genetic combinations and on the same schedule?) perhaps there is an evil Q-like entity that is running the Mirror Universe for its own amusement? If one wanted to get religious, one might even suspect that it is the universe as run by the Devil rather than God...
I always enjoyed the DC explanation of the origin of the Terran Empire. IIRC, the Romulans won the Earth-Romulan War and occupied Earth for some time until a human rebellion rose up and wiped out their Romulan masters by getting a hold of some of their more advanced vessels (or something to that effect). They then took the war back to Romulus' doorstep, wiping them out entirely. The Terrans embraced a new "Never Again!" attitude and built the super-aggressive Empire that we all know and love on the ashes of Romulus. This is also why Vulcans are generally considered to be second-class citizens of a somewhat servile and untrusted nature in the Empire, due to their distant genetic ties to Romulus. There may be descendants of post-war Romulan refugees floating about within the Empire, or maybe small rebel factions (like what mirror-Sisko referred to), but certainly not the major power they became in the prime universe.
Mirror Romulans are probably hyper-social, peace loving space hippies.
If I recall the DC comics version correctly, the Terrans defeated the Romulan in the Sol system after an occupation. They did not manage to destroy the Romulan Empire because I seem to recall the regular universe Kirk and crew on Excelsior negotiate with the Klingons and Romulans against the Terran Empire., and seeing both D7s and old style Birds of Prey disabled by Spock's devices following the victory.
I loved the DC comics take on things for the most part. Very human
Something I might have liked to do as a concept:
The Mirror Universe is not just an alternate history--everyone seems to have anger issues. I have this idea that something else is going on..Dalek genes, this thing
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Sha_Ka_Ree_entity
or Redjack being on the loose, etc
Something I might have liked to do as a concept:
The Mirror Universe is not just an alternate history--everyone seems to have anger issues. I have this idea that something else is going on..Dalek genes, this thing
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Sha_Ka_Ree_entity
or Redjack being on the loose, etc
Yep. The origin given by DC only states that the Terran resistance managed to free Earth and provide the foundation for what became the Terran Empire, but doesn't mention how much broader the rebellion may have grown (if it did get past Earth and its colonies). The Romulan Star Empire was still active in the late 23rd century, since our Kirk persuaded both the mirror Romulans and Klingons to help lead an assault on the Imperial government. It's implied that the Romulans and Klingons had had their own difficulties in that reality, which would have been consistent with how they were portrayed in some contemporary sources like the FASA RPG.
It's possible most races in the MU are actually the same as they are in the Prime Universe, only it's humans who are different.
I remember reading something suggesting that the moral difference between universes was something to do with the fabric of the universe being slightly different there, slightly warping humans minds. Was it Diane Duane's TNG novel Dark Mirror?
Given that this is the mirror universe, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Romulans were far too trusting and utterly incapable of suspicion and secrecy.
Probably they told the Imperial Fleet on first contact the location of their home world in good faith, and what kind of defenses they possessed, only to be subjugated in short order.
Or something like that
Probably they told the Imperial Fleet on first contact the location of their home world in good faith, and what kind of defenses they possessed, only to be subjugated in short order.
Or something like that
That assumes it's a true 'mirror.' It's more of a divergent universe where the humans, instead of embracing peace and exploration, decided to forge their own empire instead. Really nothing in the universe really shows the races other than the humans as different. The Klingons and the Cardassians are still warmongering, for instance.
I like to assume the Klingons aren't into honour, though I suppose there's no on-screen evidence to back that up. Cardassians are pretty much the same, Bajorans are more militant and less spiritual. We know nothing of Ferengi society, though Ferengi individuals are opposite of their Prime Universe counterpart. Quark tried to help others, Rom was a badass rebel, Nog a complete douche, and Brunt was a really nice guy.
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