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What Does The Name Lucian Alliance Mean?

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Just wondering what the name Lucian Alliance actually means. Specifically, the behind the scenes origins of how the writers thought it up, though an in-universe origin for the name would also be nice.
 
From the Stargate Wiki:

The Lucian Alliance was formed in 2005 on the planet Lucia, possibly earlier when the Goa'uld System Lords started to be eliminated one by one.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Lucian_Alliance


Lucia was a planet in the Milky Way galaxy which was inhabited by Humans and known to be the location of some slums which sold numerous items. In addition to this, it was also the birthplace of the Lucian Alliance. (Stargate: "Worlds")

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Lucia
 
^ And none of that was ever mentioned onscreen. Sigh.

Come to think of it, did we ever get a classic Stargate info dump on them, with the overhead projector and Daniel showing peripherally related information about their mythological equivalent with scans from old encyclopedias?
 
^ And none of that was ever mentioned onscreen. Sigh.
It doesn't matter. Star Trek's cannon rules do not apply to Stargate. Anything officially licensed is cannon as long as it does not contradict the TV shows/movies (even though they contradict themselves sometimes ;) ).
 
I don't see how that follows. It's a name. They could've been the Saltayic Alliance (est. Saltaya, 2005), for all the difference it makes.
 
Why the hate for the Lucian Alliance? I missed the later seasons of SG-1 and I'm only up to episode 17 of SGU.
 
Why the hate for the Lucian Alliance? I missed the later seasons of SG-1 and I'm only up to episode 17 of SGU.

They simply aren't nearly as interesting as they think they are, and not nearly as fun as the bad guys they replaced.
 
Nah. In fact, out of the Egyptian context, they're pretty indistinguishable from any other humans, which makes them even more bland.
 
they are just your typical bad guy, who are mean just to be mean, and really have no point that I can see yet, they are simply there cause the writers feel we have to have an enemy in the series, which is ok, but they could have at least made them interesting, like the new alien enemy, i don't know why they aren't the primary threat in the series
 
Besides, the story would be over quickly if the Sombreroids stormed the ship. They'd likely everyone in their path, everyone would use up all their ammo and end up having to beat them with their rifles. Plus, the Sombreroids don't talk, so Wray's negotiate suggestion would have been ignored as idiotic.

Wait, I'm starting to wish they did do this storyline instead.
 
"Lucian" is actually a mis-spelling.

It should be "Losin' Alliance:, because, well, that's what they do all the time.


The real question should be - what is the Lucian Alliance's motivation, and what makes them a real "threat" to our heroes?
 
"Lucian" is actually a mis-spelling.

It should be "Losin' Alliance:, because, well, that's what they do all the time.


The real question should be - what is the Lucian Alliance's motivation, and what makes them a real "threat" to our heroes?
I haven't seen them in SG-1 but in Universe they seem to be dangerous like the North Koreans in real life. They are willing to use force during peace time under the knowledge that the superpower doesn't really want total war so are likely to absorb the punishment they dish out
 
The real question should be - what is the Lucian Alliance's motivation, and what makes them a real "threat" to our heroes?

The Lucian Alliance wishes to protect they and theirs in the wake of the fall of the System Lords. They seek to do this by establishing a power base by whatever means necessary, including addictive corn scams, racketeering, piracy, and, apparently, archeology. Ideally, I assume they wish to establish themselves as a mafia-style organization, with protection rackets and fingers in everybody's pies, eventually moving on to being a legitimate, noncriminal (but probably still despotic) interplanetary government. Their threat comes from the fact that they're finicky to stomp out, and have more ships than we do, so they can easily mess with our shit. Of course, when you mess with shit, it stinks, as the LA learned when one of their extremely rare goa'uld battery-planets just recently exploded.

However, they are largely ineffectual. I really wish someone would actually get in some good, down-home racial taunting at the non-Tau'ri humans once in a while. I wanted it when all the people in Pegasus got sticks up their asses about why we deserved to run Atlantis (um, because we come from the Ancients' planet, the Ancients told us where to find the city, and the Ancients' buddies all explicitly identified us as their inheritors? That enough for you?), and I wanted it when the Lucian Alliance started whining about how Destiny belonged to all of humanity, even the losers who were enslaved by glowy-eyed Liberace until last week.

Listen, bitches. You see how you're using our guns? That's because, five thousand years ago, our ancestors drove off the Goa'uld. With sticks, a rope, and busted-ass invisible time machine. Yours, on the other hand, sat around with their thumbs up their asses, only being freed when whatever rock you got planted on tapped out of naquuada and you weren't worth the trouble of moving again, or we, those pussy Tau'ri you keep trying to jack around, liberated you. Generally with four guys, one of whom wore glasses. We own your asses in so many ways it's not even funny. And, guess what? If you wanted the goddamn ship so much, you should've fucking well dialed in to it yourself. You had a 4,900 year head start on us. We didn't even know what a stargate did until fifteen years ago, and in that time, we knocked over an empire that had been holding the galaxy in thrall for ten thousand years, made a half-dozen of the most bad-ass starships since the Ancients themselves were tooling around firing their swarms of space-bees at anything that pissed them off, recovered not one but two impossibly distant Ancient facilities you folks barely even knew about, and we did it with 99% of our population not even knowing what was up. Can you imagine what we'd achieve if we were actually trying?

Jesus. Apparently, the Goa'uld were breeding for stupid off-world. That's the only possible explanation for why Lara Croft over there would think it was smart to antagonize the slayers of, let me get the list, Ra, Hathor, Setesh, Heru'ur, Sokar, Cronus, Apophis, Imhotep, Anubis, Moloc, and like, eighty different Ba'als, not to mention killing all the Ori and converting their Priors, because we had "laws" and "ethics" that would keep us from "killing the fuck out of you when we easily could." Dumbass, when a highly successful entity has tons of artificial constraints on its behaviors, that just means it's badass enough to thrive in spite of them. Didn't you learn anything from Admiral Cain? "Murmurm, you're a bunch of pussies who debate law and kept fifty thousand people safe, and I lost half my crew the first week after the attacks, so I'm so much more badass and effective then you, even though the results clearly show otherwise. Now let me torture this cylon prisoner to insanity to make me feel better about nailing her, because nothing bad could possibly happen because of that."

So, yeah, it's fair to say that if I were in the SGC and had to put up with the Brotherhood, or the Genii, or the Lucian Alliance whining about how we just march in and take over like we think our shit doesn't stink, I'd quickly develop a strong anti-transplanted-human bigotry. 'Cause you know what? Our shit doesn't stink, because while you lot were being fattened like cattle or whipped by jaffa, we were inventing the toilet and indoor plumbing.

Tau'ri, motherfuckers. It means "First World." And that means its our galaxy, you just live here. Deal with it.
 
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