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What’s with McCoy in “Gamesters”?

Multiple-star systems were actually thought to be more common than single-star ones until recently. But that's the sort of knowledge that isn't based on anything much, and we already have hints that we are currently incapable of seeing most of the stars in the Milky Way, and that the invisible ones might well be singles.

In Trek, planets of interest might be mainly found around single stars, perhaps because ancient civilizations favored those over multi-star systems. But Vulcan is supposedly in a trinary system, say (it just never crops up in dialogue), or at least the system it is in is named the same as a trinary system in the real Milky Way. And by the above token, it may well turn out that Earth is in a multiple system as well, there being room for a dim companion or two to Sol out there currently.

Direct evidence of non-solo TOS stars is scarce, though, yes...

For the length of events in "GoT", we have McCoy's reference to a lot of time having passed and Kirk's inability to remember the stardate - something we might expect if the other heroes conducted an almost hopeless search for Kirk's team in three dimensions, but less likely when they have a clear line of search. Yet we know a starship may choose to spend considerable time chasing feral waterfowl at the skipper's discretion before Starfleet begins to pay attention - months at the very least!

What does transpire at Triskelion, though? Everything until McCoy's "This is ridiculous!" scene is introduction where Kirk's team learns the ropes but is yet to face its first training session. The McCoy scene is then followed by the first training session - and this in turn by Kirk's "Our strange captivity continues" log where he no longer knows the stardate.

Is this the juncture at which we jump ahead several days or perhaps weeks? Kirk's log is generic, but it's not as if he could make any other sort: it's a testament-type thing, listing the few known facts but including nothing that would be "current" or add anything to putative preceding entries. Quite possibly, it's the only log Kirk ever makes during their captivity on Triskelion, and the audience never misses any.

After Kirk makes his log, we again meet him playing the part of the practice target, just like immediately before. This may be something inflicted upon him for days at an end, concluding in the trio getting declared "full-fledged thralls". Or then we only witnessed an hour of action or so. The next scene has Kirk ask Shahna some questions for the apparent first time - but arguably it might have taken him days or weeks to get that opportunity.

These two (during Kirk's bout of handstiedbehindbackitis, and then between that and the jogging scene) are the slots that might accommodate an extended stay on Triskelion; the rest of the action is more or less seamless and indeed can't cover more than a day. And while the first slot is the less likely one, it's also the one we'd need to use to excuse Kirk's loss of track of time.

I guess we could also argue that there's a seam between the final time Galt uses the collar on our escaping heroes, and the time the Enterprise arrives, from the Triskelion point of view. This time, it's the Enterprise point of view that suggests seamless action and at most a few hours involved in the "we're now approaching" activities.

So, two dialogue references that might suggest significant time elapsed; scant few opportunities to insert that time in the action; but no explicit objection to inserting it.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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Kirk agreed that trinary systems are less common:
KIRK: This system's star is a trinary. Limits it a bit, but we're a long way from the Enterprise, if we're in the same dimension.​
Is 12 (or 24 or 36) a "long way" from the Enterprise? Maybe, but given that they were on Gamma 2 up until recently, even one light year is a long way!

Back to your question though, it's the first and ONLY trinary system in TOS!
Binary systems are pretty rare too, with Talos IV (if we trust the on screen graphic) and the uncharted system in Mudd's Passion being the only true appearances, although Lester (in Kirk) makes reference to one in Turnabout Intruder.
The simplest answer might be that in Trek you are more likely to find class M planets around single stars than systems with two or more, and since the ship rarely visits anything other than class M...
 
Little factoid for anyone who might not know:

Alpha Centauri, which Zefram Cochrane has something to do with, is a trinary star system.

That is if you consider Proxima Centauri part of the system.

Robert
 
For the length of events in "GoT", we have McCoy's reference to a lot of time having passed and Kirk's inability to remember the stardate - something we might expect if the other heroes conducted an almost hopeless search for Kirk's team in three dimensions, but less likely when they have a clear line of search. Yet we know a starship may choose to spend considerable time chasing feral waterfowl at the skipper's discretion before Starfleet begins to pay attention - months at the very least!

What does transpire at Triskelion, though? Everything until McCoy's "This is ridiculous!" scene is introduction where Kirk's team learns the ropes but is yet to face its first training session. The McCoy scene is then followed by the first training session - and this in turn by Kirk's "Our strange captivity continues" log where he no longer knows the stardate.
I agree that the break between lunch and the training session is the best time for a break. The one in the middle of the "punishment" less so IMO, because it requires everyone to retain the same position for extra hours/days - all the while with Kirk dodging whip blows with his hands behind his back! :eek:

Is this the juncture at which we jump ahead several days or perhaps weeks? Kirk's log is generic, but it's not as if he could make any other sort: it's a testament-type thing, listing the few known facts but including nothing that would be "current" or add anything to putative preceding entries. Quite possibly, it's the only log Kirk ever makes during their captivity on Triskelion, and the audience never misses any.
Or it might be that the log entry was made by Kirk after the fact (as suggested earlier in this thread) and he simply couldn't think of a suitable Stardate to use!
However, part of me likes the notion of Kirk making mental log entries (a bit like Dr Sam Beckett in his quantum leaping) even if no-one would ever get to hear them :biggrin:

I guess we could also argue that there's a seam between the final time Galt uses the collar on our escaping heroes, and the time the Enterprise arrives, from the Triskelion point of view. This time, it's the Enterprise point of view that suggests seamless action and at most a few hours involved in the "we're now approaching" activities.
On paper that works, but visually Kirk retains the same "fresh" whip marks on his torso throughout. The best gap is still the earlier one IMO

The simplest answer might be that in Trek you are more likely to find class M planets around single stars than systems with two or more, and since the ship rarely visits anything other than class M...
Good point - we don't even know if the binary star mentioned in Turnabout Intruder had an M-class planet around it - perhaps that's their survey was for?
 
Kirk agreed that trinary systems are less common:

Back to your question though, it's the first and ONLY trinary system in TOS!

Well, except for references to Alpha Centauri, of which I believe there is at least one (TIY).
 
But as said, there's a distinction between saying "trinary system" and referring to a system we know to be trinary. And then a further distinction between those and references to a system only indirectly known. Triskelion is an explicit trinary in the Trek universe. Alpha Centauri is one in our universe but not necessarily in Trek's. And Vulcan is one in our universe but only provided that it really is 40 Eridani and that the Trek 40 Eri is a trinary like ours. (The fourth level there being the possibility that a system we currently don't recognize as a trinary, such as Sol, turns out to be one in the future. And even if that way lies madness, we can always take the extra step and accept that words like "trinary" are currently undergoing reevaluation and may mean wholly different things in the Trek future, even if we don't treat it as an alternate universe vocabulary-wise in general.)

Yes, I'm certain basically all of Kirk's logs are dictated after the hectic action has reached its conclusion and Kirk can use the little-known recline button on his command chair armrest and set course for Kuppa Java. But he always makes an effort to sound appropriately involved: while narrating, he successfully feigns ignorance for events during which he was ignorant. Feigning ignorance for the passage of time isn't one of his usual tricks, though, and might warrant extra interpretation here.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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Yes, I'm certain basically all of Kirk's logs are dictated after the hectic action has reached its conclusion and Kirk can use the little-known recline button on his command chair armrest and set course for Kuppa Java. But he always makes an effort to sound appropriately involved: while narrating, he successfully feigns ignorance for events during which he was ignorant. Feigning ignorance for the passage of time isn't one of his usual tricks, though, and might warrant extra interpretation here.
The Man Trap:
Captain's log, additional entry. Since our mission was routine, we had beamed down to the planet without suspicion. We were unaware each member of the landing party was seeing a different woman, a different Nancy Crater.
No feigning ignorance here. This is an obvious case of future knowledge being inserted into the story after the fact. At this point in the story, Kirk did not know of the image-changing feature of Nancy Crater.
 
Well, a different type of feigning. "Here we are ignorant of the fact that Klingons lurk around the corner"; "Here we are ignorant of the stardate". What changes between the likes of "Man Trap" and "Enemy Within" and the later log format is that Kirk abandons past tense, making the narration more dramatic and better hiding the omniscience of hindsight.

Perhaps we could say that "additional entry" is Kirkspeak for the type of narration that detaches from the narrative, an explicit footnote to clarify the content. "Supplemental" is an entry made within the narrative...

Timo Saloniemi
 
When you learn something new that's immensely important to understand the events, of course you're going to append it to the log. The Man Trap thing is a new footnote being added to a prior '"page" of dictation.
 
Yup. But Kirk abandons the practice soon thereafter, presumably because reading on will reveal everything to the reader of the logs anyway.

Which sort of supports the interpretation that we're seeing the popular logs rather than the official ones - that Kirk is narrating his autobiography instead of compiling a record of the events to his superiors...

Timo Saloniemi
 
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